Re: [Tools-arch] Draft RFP SoW for "Review of the current landscape of IETF document processing tools"
Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> Thu, 25 June 2020 03:19 UTC
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 13:19:19 +1000
From: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
To: Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org>, tools-arch@ietf.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Tools-arch] Draft RFP SoW for "Review of the current landscape of IETF document processing tools"
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Thanks Jay, I realize that while I might provide some of this list, I am completely unaware of the extent of it. But this seems achievable in a relatively short time-scale. I might prefer to see more details on how the contractor manages the work product. Specifically, I think that this should be a relatively open process during which tool maintainers can see the assessment and make factual corrections. A public document or repository might be a good way to ensure that contributions of this sort are easy - and getting those contributions might greatly simplify the process. Is your intent to include the set of tools employed by the RPC in this? I think that would be good, but it appears that you intentionally chose "used by the IETF community". Nits: Two items are numbered 6. "and and" in "two or three review and and change cycles" On Thu, Jun 25, 2020, at 12:15, Jay Daley wrote: > In support of the work of the Tools Architecture and Strategy Team > (TAS), an RFP will be issued for a "Review of the current landscape of > IETF document processing tools". A draft SoW is below and I welcome > your comments/feedback on it. > > Jay > > > # Overview > The IETF seeks a contractor to review the current landscape of tools > that have been specifically designed to be used by the IETF community > to work with IETF documents (I-Ds and RFCs) and to build a dataset > about these tools, including technical details, maintenance processes, > licensing and others, and further to determine what parts of the > document production, management and usage lifecycle each tool supports. > > # Deliverables > > ## Dataset > This data is to be presented in a table using simple scales and > classifications in addition to any supporting narrative. For example, > for licensing, a simple classification may include "GPL v3, > Proprietary, BSD-like" and more. > > The data to be collected is: > > 1. A full catalog of tools, including all the relevant tools at > https://tools.ietf.org and other tools that are not listed there but > are known to be in use. The contractor will be responsible for > drawing up the list, which will then be reviewed, possibly iterated and > approved. > > 2. Details of the maintainer(s) of each tool > > 3. The licensing of the tool (simple classification) > > 4. The technical environment each tool is intended to work in (OS, > packages, containers, etc) > > 5. How each tool is maintained, including > - where the source code is located > - how issues are raised (simple classification) > - the level of version control and release management in use (on a simple scale) > - how comprehensive the test coverage is (on a simple scale) > - the form of testing framework in use (simple classification) > > 6. A subjective assessment of the current maintained state of the tool > (on a simple scale) > > 6. A subjective assessment of the suitability of each tool (on a > simple scale), based on 3, 4, 5 and 6 above. > > 7. What stages of the document lifecycle (see below) each tools covers. > > ## Document lifecycle > As part of this work, the contractor will need to construct a model of > the IETF document lifecycle including document production (authoring, > review, format conversion, etc), document access (download tools, > search tools, etc) and document usage (extracting certain parts, etc). > This is only to cover the work carried out by the IETF community and > not the work of the RFC Production Centre. > > There are no templates for this model and it is expected that there > will be two or three review and and change cycles. > > ## Coverage map > The information collected above is additionally to be presented in some > form of map showing each tool and each stage, the coverage of each > stage in the lifecycle and the subjective assessment of the suitability > of each tool. > > > > > -- > Jay Daley > IETF Executive Director > jay@ietf.org > > -- > Tools-arch mailing list > Tools-arch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-arch >
- [Tools-arch] Draft RFP SoW for "Review of the cur… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-arch] Draft RFP SoW for "Review of the… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Tools-arch] Draft RFP SoW for "Review of the… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-arch] Draft RFP SoW for "Review of the… John Levine
- Re: [Tools-arch] Draft RFP SoW for "Review of the… Jay Daley
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