Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: PKCS#9 and #10
Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> Fri, 15 January 2021 21:31 UTC
Return-Path: <kaduk@mit.edu>
X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93ED73A11E4; Fri, 15 Jan 2021 13:31:42 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.919
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.919 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yJPaCC899tSa; Fri, 15 Jan 2021 13:31:40 -0800 (PST)
Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F46A3A11DD; Fri, 15 Jan 2021 13:31:40 -0800 (PST)
Received: from kduck.mit.edu ([24.16.140.251]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 10FLVWHl031489 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 15 Jan 2021 16:31:37 -0500
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 13:31:32 -0800
From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
To: Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>
Cc: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>, Trustees Trustees <trustees@ietf.org>, IETF Tools Development <tools-development@ietf.org>
Message-ID: <20210115213132.GQ21@kduck.mit.edu>
References: <E8CEA61867EF1E4A9BD05D64D74F76B250F9EE68@MX307CL02.corp.emc.com> <CAHbuEH4YWd_J9+XFUdWUq4kUkiURLEgvoXTT+G9ucdEkVuzP7Q@mail.gmail.com> <f0f7dbbd-9295-3065-5644-e89b3182696f@levkowetz.com> <CAHbuEH7XmEVGwcUcXgETB35gdve9N8xBvd3W7+c3OFbs6BDFww@mail.gmail.com> <a436e583-83e9-cede-f2b8-c903d114b976@nostrum.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In-Reply-To: <a436e583-83e9-cede-f2b8-c903d114b976@nostrum.com>
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tools-development/HkvzDulPQuE9cfPezoTsRxqxjw4>
Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: PKCS#9 and #10
X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Tools Development mail list <tools-development.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/tools-development>, <mailto:tools-development-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/tools-development/>
List-Post: <mailto:tools-development@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:tools-development-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development>, <mailto:tools-development-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 21:31:43 -0000
To reintroduce a smidgeon more context, I kicked things into motion by noting that https://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/discusses/ lists a document as having a 1031-day-old Discuss, and looking at the ballot positions indicates that there was a need to follow up on the licensing. I am not 100% confident that I would think to look at the IPR declarations against that document to attempt to resolve such a situation, but I also don't have any better ideas for where to put something in a mechanical way (i.e., that doesn't rely on the possibly-former AD updating a ballot position). -Ben On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 03:24:08PM -0600, Robert Sparks wrote: > There's been context-away. > > As Henrik suggested, you _could_ enter them as IPR disclosures (with the > pdf as an attachment), and those would come up in searches on any > documents that obsoleted/modified these. > > Why does that not seem the right thing to do? > > RjS > > On 1/15/21 10:37 AM, Kathleen Moriarty wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Is there any way we can address this? Ben, current AD is assuming the > > transfer didn't happen even though it was complete. There's no marker > > attached to the datatracker record to indicate the transfer for these > > 2 documents happened. > > > > Thank you, > > Kathleen > > > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:00 PM Henrik Levkowetz > > <henrik@levkowetz.com <mailto:henrik@levkowetz.com>> wrote: > > > > Hi Kathleen, > > > > On 2019-07-30 21:29, Kathleen Moriarty wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > > > I am not sure how I can attach this change in the copyright and > > change > > > control status to RFC2985 and RFC2986. The IPR disclosure page > > doesn't > > > quite fit as the license is specific to the standard and opening > > it up > > > further for use. For the other PKCS documents, we did a > > revision of the > > > RFC. I'd like this to not be lost with me and for others doing > > work with > > > these standards to know that it is fine for them to do so. Any > > ideas? > > > > IPR declarations carry forward through "obsoletes" and "replaces" > > document > > relationships, so if a new RFC marks the previous one as > > obsoleted, the > > IPR declaration should show up for any new RFCs for the same standard. > > > > Registering the change for the current RFCs seems to be the right > > thing > > to do. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Henrik > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Best regards, > > Kathleen > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development
- [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: PKCS#9 and #10 Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: PKCS#9 and #10 Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: PKCS#9 and #10 Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: PKCS#9 and #10 Robert Sparks
- Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: PKCS#9 and #10 Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: PKCS#9 and #10 Robert Sparks
- Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] [Trustees] Fwd: PKCS#9 an… Stephan Wenger
- Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] [Trustees] Fwd: PKCS#9 an… Robert Sparks
- Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] [Trustees] Fwd: PKCS#9 an… Stephan Wenger
- Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] [Trustees] Fwd: PKCS#9 an… John R Levine
- Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] [Trustees] Fwd: PKCS#9 an… Russ Housley
- Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Trustees]… Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)