Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Next (and I think final) version of the Meeting application SoW

Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> Tue, 22 January 2019 20:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Next (and I think final) version of the Meeting application SoW
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Have we done any serious investigation of whether we could use an off-the-shelf tool like Sched to meet the bulk of our needs, rather than continuing to develop more bespoke functionality that we have to maintain over time for meeting scheduling and display? I know we think the IETF is a special flower, but in many ways it isn’t, e.g., we have a bunch of tracks and sessions that need to be de-conflicted based on certain criteria and fit into a grid.

I’m also curious who we expect to consume the improved meeting statistics. As far as I know, no one on the IESG makes use of the existing reports cited in the RFP. Generally I find the datatracker statistics kind of hard to consume for a number of reasons, so I would hesitate to add more functionality there without a compelling justification.

Thanks,
Alissa

> On Jan 17, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
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> I've incorporated comments from Russ, and at his suggestion renamed the file using a schema we can follow with the remaining SoWs to cause them to group nicely in Finder.
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> I believe this is ready to go out for IDIQ bids.
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> RjS
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