[Tools-discuss] Re: document status and other WG information

Baker Fred <fred@cisco.com> Wed, 09 March 2005 14:17 UTC

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From: Baker Fred <fred@cisco.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 08:16:27 -0600
To: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
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My only problem with it is that it tells me a lot about drafts that are  
already expired and nothing about a number of private submissions to  
v6ops that the working group is, in at least some cases, actively  
tracking, and will be presented this morning.

A diff between the sorted list of drafts mentioned on the tools page  
and the currently-posted draft-*-v6ops-* files:

1,2c1,5
< draft-palet-v6tc-goals-tunneling
< draft-pouffary-v6ops-ent-v6net
---
 > draft-choi-v6ops-natpt-ipsec
 > draft-chown-v6ops-campus-transition
 > draft-chown-v6ops-renumber-thinkabout
 > draft-chown-v6ops-vlan-usage
 > draft-huitema-v6ops-teredo
4,6d6
< draft-ietf-v6ops-3gpp-cases
< draft-ietf-v6ops-3gpp-ipv6use
< draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-security
8d7
< draft-ietf-v6ops-assisted-tunneling-requirements
12,22d10
< draft-ietf-v6ops-entnet-scenarios
< draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey
< draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-apps
< draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-gen
< draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-int
< draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-intro
< draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-ops
< draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-routing
< draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-sec
< draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-subip
< draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-trans
28,29d15
< draft-ietf-v6ops-unman-scenarios
< draft-ietf-v6ops-unmaneval
30a17,27
 > draft-larsson-v6ops-mip-scenarios
 > draft-liumin-v6ops-silkroad
 > draft-ooms-v6ops-bgp-tunnel
 > draft-palet-v6ops-auto-trans
 > draft-palet-v6ops-ipv6security
 > draft-palet-v6ops-solution-tun-auto-disc
 > draft-palet-v6ops-tun-auto-disc
 > draft-savola-v6ops-security-overview
 > draft-tschofenig-v6ops-secure-tunnels
 > draft-vandevelde-v6ops-nap
 > draft-vives-v6ops-ipv6-security-ps

It is the ones with the ">" symbol that I need information on.

Tell me: how are these pages maintained? I suspect that the information  
came from the chairs of the WG. Let me throw out another thought.

I can get a current list of WG and personal submissions to v6ops from

https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi? 
command=search_list&search_job_owner=0&search_group_acronym=&search_stat 
us_id=&search_cur_state=&sub_state_id=6&search_filename=v6ops&search_rfc 
number=&search_area_acronym=&search_button=SEARCH

What I really now need is an annotation of some sort as to what the WG  
chair thinks of a personal submission that the AD is not yet tracking -
  - has not yet been picked up by the chair, or
  - moved to some other WG and therefore replaced with another draft,
  - is being tracked by the WG chair,
  - is relevant to a discussion the WG has decided to not follow up on.

This last makes it truly a personal submission to the IETF. Other than  
"replaced by", which requires an actual text entry, these may simply be  
additional states in the state table...


On Mar 9, 2005, at 8:07 AM, Tim Chown wrote:
> It would be very nice to see current personal drafts under v6ops there  
> too...
>
> On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 03:44:49PM +0200, Pekka Savola wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> The proto team has developed a couple of very nice pages, e.g., to  
>> better illustrate the document status of a WG.
>>
>> Please take a look at it at:
>>   http://tools.ietf.org/wg/v6ops/
>>
>> -- 
>> Pekka Savola                 "You each name yourselves king, yet the
>> Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
>> Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings
>
> -- 
> Tim

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