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Re: [Tools-discuss] "Distantly related Internet-Drafts"?

Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> Fri, 01 October 2021 06:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] "Distantly related Internet-Drafts"?
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Hi,

On 2021-10-1, at 1:59, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> The first document filename starts with "draft-dawkins-quic". I expect this one to be listed as a related Internet-Draft. The filename is "draft-author-wgname-*", as suggested for Internet-Drafts in https://www.ietf.org/standards/ids/guidelines/#7, and it is related to the QUIC working group.
> 
> The second and third document filenames start with "draft-dawkins-sdp-rtp-quic". I wasn't expecting to see these listed as related to the QUIC working group. These drafts are intended for discussion on the MOQ ("Media Over QUIC'') non-WG mailing list, and (if I understand the guidance I've gotten from the TSV and ART ADs correctly) are actually out of scope for the QUIC working group.
> 
> Is it possible that the datatracker is scanning the filename looking for any occurrence of a working group name, not just in the third position?

IIRC, when I was a QUIC co-chair, I manually tweaked the pattern for the QUIC WG in the datatracker settings, because people were submitting QUIC-related I-Ds that were not showing up on our datatracker page and we hence didn't learn about until (sometimes much) later.

Since I'm not a co-chair anymore, I don't have access to the "manage document list" button anymore, so I can't verify this.

Thanks,
Lars

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