Re: [Tools-discuss] Proper scrolling in iOS

Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> Thu, 11 April 2013 22:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Proper scrolling in iOS
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On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote:
> On 2013-04-11 22:52, Nico Williams wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Apr 11, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.webmonkey.com/2012/02/webkit-isnt-breaking-the-web-you-are/
>>>
>>>
>>> I think this argues for leaving in the standard css, not for leaving out
>>> the webkit css.
>>
>>
>> Or using the user agent string to figure out what CSS to send.
>> ...
>
>
> Nooooo.

If there can be vendor-specific prefixes then there must be a
conditional somewhere in order to use them, or you must use all of
them :) or you must have a vendor-specific site.  Pick your poison.

> Just use a device where you have an actual choice of browsers.

So, if a site looks bad in one browser, switch to a different one, and
play this game with every site?  /me checks the date.  No, it's not
April Fool's today.

Nico
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