Re: [Tools-discuss] draft-ietf-acme-dns-account-01-00

Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Tue, 14 February 2023 17:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] draft-ietf-acme-dns-account-01-00
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On 2/14/23 10:56 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> On 2023-02-14, at 15:08, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
>> I'd love to do that. We could solve the disambiguation problem with a finite set of hashes going forward.
> I’m not sure we are talking about the same problem, or maybe we are and I don’t comprehend the full gamut of issues here.
We are, and my cryptic comment above is shorthand for 'replace all the 
code that tries to guess whether a piece of the name is a version marker 
or not' with 'check the name against this fixed list of problematic 
draft names that already exist' while preventing more of them being made.
>
>> But we can't do it for all document types (which is really what we should strive for). We'd have to completely overhaul the way we name charter documents, including replacing RFC6292 that defined that we use sequences that look like 00-00, 00-01, ..., 00-nn, 01, 01-00, 01-01, ... , 02, 02-00, ...
> I was thinking that an 80 % solution might be simply disallowing submission of I-Ds with docnames of the form .*-[0-9][0-9]-[0-9][0-9]
>
> I don’t understand the naming behind draft-ietf-acme-dns-account-01-00, but there are many reasons to have a two-digit number at the end of the constant part of a name, such as in draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-8-9-10-00 (which is about deprecating options 8, 9, and 10), or, historically, in draft-ietf-16ng-ip-over-ethernet-over-802-dot-16-07.txt (the underlying standard IEEE 802.16 can be abbreviated as 802-dot-16 — note there already is a circumvention in that name for the dot) etc. — this just needs to be brutally suppressed at submission time.
Just to check: if I replace "brutally suppressed" with "prevented" does 
it match what you're trying to say?
>
> Grüße, Carsten
>
>
>> RjS
>>
>> On 2/14/23 4:24 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>>> Can we now reject draft submissions with docnames that confuse datatracker like that?
>>>
>>> *** reference.I-D.ietf-acme-dns-account-01.xml: *** Status code 404 while fetching https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bibxml3/draft-ietf-acme-dns-account-01.xml
>>>
>>> Grüße, Carsten
>>>
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