Re: [Tools-implementation] Different topic: pointing to drafts from the datatracker
Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Wed, 16 September 2020 13:27 UTC
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From: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 09:27:16 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] Different topic: pointing to drafts from the datatracker
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> On Sep 16, 2020, at 8:31 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote: > > Signed PGP part > Hi Robert, > > On 2020-09-15 20:15, Robert Sparks wrote: >> You've seen the thread with Carsten, Michael, and others about how the >> advent of v3 html has put pressure on what URLs for a draft that people >> might reference (from a paper). >> >> I think there are many things we might do with the feedback in that >> thread. One is fairly quick and easy - I think we have places where the >> datatracker points to www.ietf.org/id/ for drafts. I propose we change >> all of those to point to www.ietf.org/archive/id instead. > > Sounds reasonable, although I think the only places we currently don't > point at /archive/id/ is in the draft announcement emails. If we change > those, too, then maybe it's time to ask the IESG to simply ditch the > separate active drafts directory altogether. > > Having seen how things worked 20 years ago, and how things have evolved, > the active-drafts repository made a lot of sense at a time when there > was no datatracker, no tools site, and the only way to get drafts was to > pull them (via http* or ftp) from the active drafts repository. But > today, the utility of that in parallel with /archive/id/ is so marginal, > and the extra bother sufficiently large, that I think it could be time to > move to not having separate active drafts and archived drafts directories. I'm not sure that I totally agree. I like to rsync the current drafts. I do not want all of them on my laptop. Russ
- [Tools-implementation] Different topic: pointing … Robert Sparks
- Re: [Tools-implementation] Different topic: point… Russ Housley
- Re: [Tools-implementation] Different topic: point… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Tools-implementation] Different topic: point… Russ Housley
- Re: [Tools-implementation] Different topic: point… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Tools-implementation] Different topic: point… Henrik Levkowetz