RE: Draft new TRADE WG Charter, two week comment period
David Burdett <david.burdett@commerceone.com> Thu, 24 August 2000 19:06 UTC
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From: David Burdett <david.burdett@commerceone.com>
Subject: RE: Draft new TRADE WG Charter, two week comment period
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Donald I agree that IOTP should not include a messaging layer as was planned some time ago. However, to achieve interoperability, IOTP will need to specify what (which?) messaging layer to use and how to use it. Regards David -----Original Message----- From: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd [mailto:dee3@torque.pothole.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 5:40 AM To: David Burdett Cc: 'ietf-trade@lists.elistx.com' Subject: Re: Draft new TRADE WG Charter, two week comment period Hi David, The working group has decided not to do an XML messaging layer itself. Among the deliverables in the proposed new charter, the one most likely to refer to this would be the IOTP v2 requirements which should say something about requirements for the Messaging Layer. Thanks, Donald From: David Burdett <david.burdett@commerceone.com> Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:20:44 -0700 To: Eastlake Donald-LDE008 <Donald.Eastlake@motorola.com>, "'ietf-trade@lists.elistx.com'" <ietf-trade@lists.eListX.com> Message-id: <186F02933E65D4118EA200508BA37277D52FAB@neptune.commerceone.com> >Donald > >Apologies for not being able to make the last IETF meeting. However, I think >that work on version 2.0 of IOTP should consider use of ebXML Transport >Routing and Packaging as meeting your first requirement for "Separation of a >content independent Messaging Layer". > >ebXML stands for electronic business XML and is a joint effort between >UN/CEFACT who are owners of the EDIFACT standard and OASIS which is a >non-profit organization with significant SGML & XML expertise. It includes >the development of a content independent messaging layer. > >David > >-----Original Message----- >From: Eastlake Donald-LDE008 [mailto:Donald.Eastlake@motorola.com] >Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 6:51 PM >To: 'ietf-trade@lists.elistx.com' >Cc: Eastlake Donald-LDE008 >Subject: Draft new TRADE WG Charter, two week comment period > > >Hi, > >Here is the draft charter that was presented in Pittsburgh with some minor >edits. I would like to send this in to our Area Director soon. Please try >to get any comments or suggestions to me or posted to the list within two >weeks. > >Thanks, >Donald > > >Chair: Donald Eastlake 3rd <Donald.Eastlake@motorola.com> >Applications Area Advisor: Patrik Faltstrom > >Mailing Lists: > General Discussion:ietf-trade@lists.eListX.com > To Subscribe: ietf-trade-request@lists.eListX.com > In Body: (un)subscribe > Archive: http://www.eListX.com/archives/ietf-trade > >The Internet Open Trading Protocol is an interoperable framework >for Internet commerce. It is optimized for the case where the >buyer and the merchant do not have a prior acquaintance and is >payment system independent. It can encapsulate and support payment >systems such as SET, Mondex, secure channel card payment, >GeldKarte, etc. IOTP is able to handle cases where such merchant >roles as the shopping site, the payment handler, the deliverer of >goods or services, and the provider of customer support are >performed by different Internet sites. > >The working group will document interoperability experience with >IOTP version 1 (which has been published as an Informational RFC) >and develop the requirements for IOTP version 2. Selection of >items for inclusion in version requirements 2 is to be from the >following: > - Separation of a content independent Messaging Layer > - Dynamic Definition of Trading Sequences > - Offer Request Block > - Improved Problem Resolution (extend to cover presentation of > signed receipt to customer support party, etc.) > - Server to Server messages > - Standardized XML Digital Signatures based on output from > the XMLDSIG working group > >The following is out of scope for IOTP version 2: > - legal or regulatory issues surrounding the implementation of > the protocol or information systems using it. > - specification of an XML Messaging Layer > >The working group will specify requirements for Digital-Rights >Trading. > >The working group will specify requirements for and then a syntax >and processing model of ECML (Electronic Commerce Modeling >Language) V2. > >Milestones > >00 Sep Internet Draft publication > Secure Channel Credit/Debit > >00 Sep Working Group Last Call > SET Supplement > Architecture and Payment API > >00 Oct Submit to IESG > SET Supplement (Informational) > Architecture and Payment API (Informational) > >00 Nov Internet Draft publication > IOTP V2.0 Requirements > ECML V2.0 Requirements > >00 Nov Submit to IESG > Secure Channel Credit/Debit (Proposed Standard?) > "Digital Rights" Trading Requirements (Informational) > >00 Dec Internet Draft publication > IOTP V2.0 Specification > ECML V2.0 Specification > >00 Dec Submit to IESG > ECML V2.0 Requirements (Informational) > >01 Jan Submit to IESG > IOTP V2.0 Requirements (Informational) > >01 Feb Submit to IESG > ECML V2.0 Specification (Proposed Standard) > >01 Mar Submit to IESG > IOTP V2.0 Specification (Proposed Standard)
- RE: Draft new TRADE WG Charter, two week comment … David Burdett
- Re: Draft new TRADE WG Charter, two week comment … Yoshiaki KAWATSURA
- RE: Draft new TRADE WG Charter, two week comment … Lewis, Tony
- Re: Draft new TRADE WG Charter, two week comment … Donald E. Eastlake 3rd
- RE: Draft new TRADE WG Charter, two week comment … David Burdett
- RE: Draft new TRADE WG Charter, two week comment … Andras Varga
- Re: Draft new TRADE WG Charter, two week comment … Ko Fujimura
- Draft new TRADE WG Charter, two week comment peri… Eastlake Donald-LDE008