Re: [tram] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tram-stun-path-data-01.txt

Hi,

I think the name of the draft is a bit wide. The draft will discover loss and RTT, when I read “path characteristics” I start thinking about all sorts of things like available bandwidth, qDelay, jitter and so on.  

And do we really discover loss and RTT? Wouldn’t that be something we measure?

I would like the draft to change name to:
“Measurement of loss and RTT using STUN (MOLAR)”

The “PATH-CHARACTERISTIC” attribute is also a bit misleading in its name.  I think something like “RETRANSMIT-COUNT” and renaming the fields to NumRequests and NumResponses is more appropriate.

Defining the attribute in one main section would make it easier for developers to scan through the draft. And would avoid having to post the attribute ASCI art twice (Section 3.1 and 3.2). 

.-.
Pål-Erik

> On 07 Apr 2015, at 17:46, Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy) <tireddy@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tram-stun-path-data-01 addresses comments from Martin and Oleg. 
> 
> Thanks and Regards,
> -Tiru
> 
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>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>> This draft is a work item of the TURN Revised and Modernized Working
>> Group of the IETF.
>> 
>>        Title           : Discovery of path characteristics using STUN
>>        Authors         : Tirumaleswar Reddy
>>                          Dan Wing
>>                          Paal-Erik Martinsen
>>                          Varun Singh
>> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-tram-stun-path-data-01.txt
>> 	Pages           : 9
>> 	Date            : 2015-04-07
>> 
>> Abstract:
>>   A host with multiple interfaces needs to choose the best interface
>>   for communication.  Oftentimes, this decision is based on a static
>>   configuration and does not consider the path characteristics, which
>>   may affect the user experience.
>> 
>>   This document describes a mechanism for an endpoint to discover the
>>   path characteristics using Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN)
>>   messages.  The measurement information can then be used to influence
>>   the endpoint's Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE) candidate
>>   pair selection algorithm.
>> 
>> 
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tram-stun-path-data/
>> 
>> There's also a htmlized version available at:
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tram-stun-path-data-01
>> 
>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-tram-stun-path-data-01
>> 
>> 
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