Re: [tram] Review of dual allocation in TURNbis-11
Marc Petit-Huguenin <petithug@acm.org> Fri, 02 March 2018 21:16 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tram] Review of dual allocation in TURNbis-11
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As suggested by Brandon, I reviewed turnbis-14 for the modifications agreed on below, and found some discrepancies. See inline. On 02/09/2018 04:51 AM, Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Marc Petit-Huguenin [mailto:petithug@acm.org] >> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 9:38 PM >> To: Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy >> <TirumaleswarReddy_Konda@McAfee.com>; tram@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [tram] Review of dual allocation in TURNbis-11 >> >> Inline. >> >> On 10/16/2017 07:14 PM, Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy wrote: >>> Thanks Marc for the detailed review, Please see inline >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: tram [mailto:tram-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marc Petit- >>>> Huguenin >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 12:59 AM >>>> To: tram@ietf.org >>>> Subject: [tram] Review of dual allocation in TURNbis-11 >>>> [snip] >>> >>>> >>>> - Section 6.2 >>>> >>>> I would suggest to make ADDRESS-ERROR-CODE more generic by >> renaming >>>> it as WARNING-CODE and use the same format than for ERROR-CODE. >> Then >>>> allocate a new error code for that specific warning. I would suggest >>>> to request the 0x8009 codepoint for that attribute. >>> >>> I don't understand the need to change ADDRESS-ERROR-CODE ! >> >> To make it more generic and reusable in future specifications. > > ADDRESS-ERROR-CODE cannot use the same format as ERROR-CODE, ADDRESS-ERROR-CODE signals the IP address family for which the warning is generated + all the fields in the ERROR-CODE. > >> >>> >>>> >>>> Also I think we needs two different warnings, one that states that >>>> dual allocation is not available in a TURNbis server, but both >>>> protocols are available, and another that says that dual allocation >>>> failed because one of the two protocols is not available. This is to >>>> let the client know that it is useless to try another allocation for the >> missing protocol. >>> >>> I don't get the reason for two different warnings. >> >> A server may support both IPv6 and IPv4 allocations and not support dual >> allocation, in which case the client can do a second allocation for the IPv6 >> relayed address. > > If the server does not support dual allocation but supports both IPv6 and IPv4 allocations, it will only allocate the IPv4 relayed address and not will not return ADDRESS-ERROR-CODE in the response, the client will know the server does not understand the ADDITIONAL-ADDRESS-FAMILY attribute (ADDITIONAL-ADDRESS-FAMILY is a comprehension-optional attribute). > >> >> Alternatively the server may not support IPv6 at all, in which case the second >> allocation will fail and was unnecessary. > > ADDRESS-ERROR-CODE signals both unsupported IP address type (0x02 (IPv6 address family)) and the reason for failure (440 (unsupported address family)). > > Cheers, > -Tiru > >> >> Using two different warnings permits to know if the second allocation will >> succeed or not. >> >>> >>>> >>>> What is the policy when reserving the next port with the EVEN-PORT >>>> attribute in a dual allocation, but one of them fails to find a pair >>>> of subsequent ports available? >>> >>> It's discussed in section 6.1 >>> >>> <snip> >>> Clients MUST NOT >>> include ADDITIONAL-ADDRESS-FAMILY attribute in a Allocate request >>> that contains an EVEN-PORT attribute with the R bit set to 1. >>> </snip> >>> >>>> >>>> It is not said that the Allocate successful response must contain two >>>> XRAs after a successful dual allocation. >>> >>> Good point, Updated draft. I cannot find this update in turn-14. >>> >>>> >>>> I would also suggest to add some text that says that when a TURNbis >>>> server sends an Allocate success response, it must always send the >>>> XRAs in the same order than the RAFs were sent. So in case the >>>> server sends back by mistake two XRAs, the first one matches the one >> requested by the client. Did not get answer to that and did not see it in turn-14. >>>> >>>> The bullet list at the end needs also to be fixed for dual allocation. >>> >>> Agreed, fixed. >>> >>>> >>>> - Section 6.3 >>>> >>>> Here's too, the text needs to be updated for the dual allocation case. >>> >>> >>> Yup, updated. >>> Same, there is no update since -11 in section 7.3 (formerly 6.3) -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Email: marc@petit-huguenin.org Blog: https://marc.petit-huguenin.org Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/petithug
- [tram] Review of dual allocation in TURNbis-11 Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [tram] Review of dual allocation in TURNbis-11 Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy
- Re: [tram] Review of dual allocation in TURNbis-11 Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [tram] Review of dual allocation in TURNbis-11 Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy
- Re: [tram] Review of dual allocation in TURNbis-11 Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [tram] Review of dual allocation in TURNbis-11 Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy
- Re: [tram] Review of dual allocation in TURNbis-11 Karl Stahl
- Re: [tram] Review of dual allocation in TURNbis-11 Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy
- [tram] Extend dual allocation to multiple in TURN… Karl Stahl
- Re: [tram] Review of dual allocation in TURNbis-11 Brandon Williams
- Re: [tram] Extend dual allocation to multiple in … Brandon Williams
- Re: [tram] Review of dual allocation in TURNbis-11 Brandon Williams
- Re: [tram] Review of dual allocation in TURNbis-11 Marc Petit-Huguenin