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Re: [trill] draft-zhang-trill-multi-level-single-nickname - WG Adoption Call extension (7/16 to 8/16/2015)

Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> Thu, 06 August 2015 18:17 UTC

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From: Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 14:17:14 -0400
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Subject: Re: [trill] draft-zhang-trill-multi-level-single-nickname - WG Adoption Call extension (7/16 to 8/16/2015)
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Hi,

On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Liyizhou <liyizhou@huawei.com> wrote:
> I have responded  in the adoption call of
> draft-perlman-trill-rbridge-multilevel.
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> I support the adoption of the solution for multi-level as it is a necessary
> feature to solve the scalability issue of trill campus.
>
> I support this single nickname solution to be adopted if WG has no intention
> to advance the other unique/aggregated nickname approaches.
>
> However if we want to make all three solutions available, are they going to
> co-exist?

I think there are two types of solutions: unique nickname and
aggregated nickname. Unique nickname is pretty straight forward and
there are not that many choices in deciding how to do it. I believe it
can also be done in software with existing hardware. There are more
choices in aggregated nicknames which are inherently more complex but
more scalable. Aggregated nickname schemes are also likely to requires
some firmware/hardware changes to handle high data rates. I think we
should only standardize one aggregation nickname method. But both
unique and aggregated methods should be able to co-exist.

As a TRILL campus grows it is reasonable to go to multi-level using
unique nicknames with a "small" number of level 1 areas, then at some
point start adding aggregated level 1 areas and perhaps eventually go
to all aggregated. This issue is discussed in the perlman draft.

Thanks,
Donald
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> Thanks,
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> Yizhou
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> From: trill [mailto:trill-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hares
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 9:42 PM
> To: trill@ietf.org
> Cc: 'Donald Eastlake'; 'Jon Hudson'
> Subject: [trill] draft-zhang-trill-multi-level-single-nickname - WG Adoption
> Call extension (7/16 to 8/16/2015)
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> This email extends the 2 week WG adoption call for
> draft-zhang-trill-multi-level-single-nickname to go from 7/16 to 8/16/2015.
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> The draft can be accessed at:
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> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-trill-multilevel-single-nickname
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> Please include in your response an evaluation of the technology and places
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> this technology might be deployed.
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> Sue Hares and Jon Hudson
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