Re: [Tsv-art] TSV Triage team: Review of IETF LC documents as of 01/11

["Black, David" <[e-mail]>]

Joe,

I'll take another look at this draft before the telechat. The NVO3 WG is publishing this use case draft now in part because they badly lost their way over the past couple of years :-(. I have not been a fan of this draft in the WG, but I don't fundamentally object to its publication.

Could you provide a few examples of terminology in the draft that you view as problematic?

Thanks, --David ... Sent from my Android not-so-smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: Joe Touch <[e-mail]>
Date: 1/14/17 9:23 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: "Black, David" <[e-mail]>
Cc: "Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)" <[e-mail]>, Martin Stiemerling <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [Tsv-art] TSV Triage team: Review of IETF LC documents as of 01/11

David - I think it'd be useful for fresh eyes on this. IMO, it's full of
vendor terminology that I don't think sufficiently differentiates the
data center case from any other variant of virtual network.

This is the use case doc that purports to motivate "yet another" UDP
tunneling mechanism, which has generated quite a bit of controversy and
I expect would be more relevant to TSV.

However, I'm struck by the need to publish a use case doc so soon after
the problem statement doc (just two years ago), but that's not a TSV issue.

Joe


On 1/14/2017 8:09 AM, Joe Touch wrote:
> I've been giving them feedback for a while.
>
> Joe
>
>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 7:07 AM, Black, David <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> As one of the authors of the NVO3 architecture RFC, RFC 8014, I'd be willing to help with a Transport review of this NVO3 use case draft.  That'll have to happen quickly, as it looks like IETF LC ended on Wednesday, and the draft's on this week's telechat agenda.
>>
>> Joe?
>>
>> Thanks, --David
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Tsv-art [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Mirja Kuehlewind
>>> (IETF)
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 6:49 AM
>>> To: Joe Touch
>>> Cc: Martin Stiemerling; [e-mail]
>>> Subject: Re: [Tsv-art] TSV Triage team: Review of IETF LC documents as of 01/11
>>>
>>> Hi Joe,
>>>
>>> I also thought that this could potentially have a transport review. If you’d be able
>>> to send one that be great, please do so. Or what do you meant by it’s already
>>> being watched?
>>>
>>> Mirja
>>>
>>>
>>>> Am 13.01.2017 um 23:09 schrieb Joe Touch <[e-mail]>:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>
>>>> I've been tracking this one for a while:
>>>>
>>>> draft-ietf-nvo3-use-case-15
>>>>
>>>> It does have significant transport issues, but it's already being
>>>> watched ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/11/2017 1:52 PM, Martin Stiemerling wrote:
>>>>> Dear TSVers,
>>>>>
>>>>> First of all, a happy new (western) year! :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I did work through all documents that are in IETF LC, IESG processing
>>>>> or being requested for publication as of 01/11, 09:00 pm UTC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please find below all documents checked and what to do with these
>>>>> documents.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Documents that require TSV attention:
>>>>> none.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Documents that do not require TSV attention:
>>>>> draft-ietf-oauth-jwsreq-09
>>>>> draft-ietf-ipsecme-rfc4307bis-15
>>>>> draft-ietf-geojson-text-sequence-03
>>>>> draft-ietf-dime-agent-overload-08
>>>>> draft-ietf-bmwg-ipv6-nd-04
>>>>> draft-ietf-intarea-hostname-practice-03
>>>>> draft-mohali-dispatch-cause-for-service-number-12
>>>>> draft-ietf-trill-rfc6439bis-04
>>>>> draft-ietf-trill-directory-assist-mechanisms-10
>>>>> draft-ietf-teas-p2mp-loose-path-reopt-08
>>>>> draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-resource-sharing-proc-06
>>>>> draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-oob-setup-06
>>>>> draft-ietf-sidr-publication-10
>>>>> draft-ietf-sidr-adverse-actions-03
>>>>> draft-ietf-rtgwg-rlfa-node-protection-10
>>>>> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-12
>>>>> draft-ietf-lisp-type-iana-04
>>>>> draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-22
>>>>> draft-ietf-ecrit-car-crash-21
>>>>> draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp-websocket-13
>>>>> draft-ietf-6man-rdnss-rfc6106bis-14
>>>>> draft-holmberg-dispatch-mcptt-rp-namespace-04
>>>>> draft-murchison-webdav-prefer-13
>>>>> draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-key-tag-03
>>>>> draft-ietf-payload-melpe-04
>>>>> draft-ietf-insipid-logme-reqs-11
>>>>> draft-ietf-softwire-multicast-prefix-option-11
>>>>> draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-10
>>>>> draft-ietf-bfcpbis-sdp-ws-uri-07
>>>>> draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-failover-protocol-03
>>>>> draft-ietf-nvo3-use-case-15
>>>>> draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-multicast-14
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin
>>>>>
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