Re: [Tsv-art] ACTION NEEDED: TSV reviewers for IETF LC/near-LC documents as of 9/26
Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> Mon, 26 September 2016 22:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Tsv-art] ACTION NEEDED: TSV reviewers for IETF LC/near-LC documents as of 9/26
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Yup - all three done. Joe On 9/26/2016 2:47 PM, Allison Mankin wrote: > Hi, Joe: > > Great that you found the WG for capwap. Sure, send the one about > finding no issues too. Again, thanks for the rapid response. > > All: > > We need two more rapid responders for the documents in Last Call, and > then takers for the early review items that are further down the list. > Feel free to suggest someone else, or request a review from someone > else, cc'ing tsv-triage@ietf.org <mailto:tsv-triage@ietf.org> > > David Black: B2BUA document that includes specific ECN handling? > > Bernard Aboba: IPSECME DDoS avoidance? > > ----------------- > ??? - draft-ietf-ipsecme-ddos-protection-09[congestion/rate control] > - 9/28 > JOE - draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel-08 [tunneling] - 9/30 > ??? - draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-13.txt [ECN] - 10/10 > ----------------- > > P.S. The Triage team and ADs have agreed to do an update of the > TSV-Art Wiki soon > > > > > On 26 September 2016 at 17:02, Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu > <mailto:touch@isi.edu>> wrote: > > > > > On 9/26/2016 12:05 PM, Allison Mankin wrote: >> Joe, >> >> I don't think more is needed for the drafts than these comments >> (they're fresh in my mind). >> >> Please do send a TSV ART Last Call review with the comment about >> capwap to that group? > The email group appears to be gone - I just tried to subscribe here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/capwap/charter/ > <https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/capwap/charter/> > >> >> The comment about 6lo-dect-ule could be sent as a TSV ART early >> review - we don't have a format for this (yet) but I think it's >> fine to just use the TSV ART early review in subject line and ask >> them to address the comment in their revisions prior to or during >> IETF LC. > Will do. Should I also send one about the doc with no issues? > > Joe > > >> >> AD not on vacation (Spencer), what do you think? >> >> Thanks!! >> >> On 26 September 2016 at 14:38, Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu >> <mailto:touch@isi.edu>> wrote: >> >> Hi, all, >> >> I'd like to provide some targeted feedback, if useful, on >> tunnel and MTU issues noted below, in light of the INTAREA >> tunnels document I've been working on. I'm not sure any of >> these three documents needs more of a transport review than >> this. If useful, let me know and I can forward to each group >> separately. >> >> Joe >> >> ---- >> >> tunnel: >> >> draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel-08 - this doc refers off >> to existing tunneling specifications, many of which are >> inconsistent or incorrect (i.e., they violate requirements at >> the IP layer), as already noted in draft-intarea-tunnels. It >> would be useful for this protocol to include signalling to >> indicate the receiver payload reassembly limit when >> indicating support for each tunnel type, to assist the source >> in determining whether the resulting tunnel will be IPv6 >> compliant (rather than becoming a black hole for valid packet >> sizes). Additionally, for the transport protocol-based >> tunnels, it would be useful to indicate not only the endpoint >> IP address but the port number as well. Finally, it might be >> useful to consider IPsec TLS, and DTLS tunnels as well as >> those already listed. >> >> ---- >> >> MTU: >> >> draft-ietf-6lo-6lobac-05.txt - the protocol >> supports1280-1500B payloads without fragmentation and uses >> its own link header; as a result, this is sufficient for IPv6 >> and there should be no new interaction with TCP or other >> transports. >> >> ---- >> >> >> draft-ietf-6lo-dect-ule-05.txt- Sec 2.4 indicates that the >> default MTU for DECT UL is 500 octets and does note that: >> >> ...In order to >> support complete IP packets, the DLC layer of DECT ULE SHALL per this >> specification be configured with a MTU size that fits the >> requirements from IPv6 data packets, hence [RFC4944 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4944>] fragmentation/ >> reassembly is not required. >> >> IMO, this text should he changed to be more clear about this >> referring to IPv6 only (as per the title of the doc), to >> indicate the minimum MTU, and to explain the reference to >> RFC4944: >> >> ...In order to support IPv6, the DLC layer of DECT ULE >> MUST be >> configured with a MTU of at least 1280B to avoid the need >> for >> an RFC4944-style shim layer for additional support for >> larger >> payload fragmentation/reassembly." >> >> ---- >> >> >> On 9/26/2016 11:06 AM, Allison Mankin wrote: >>> Dear TSV ART-isans, >>> >>> I reviewed all documents that are in IETF LC and LC >>> Requested as of 9/26. I also looked at AD Review state as a >>> proxy for documents that recently passed through WGLC. >>> Please find below all documents that I believe need TSV >>> review attention. Your Action Needed is to volunteer to >>> write a tsv-art review for one or more of these. >>> >>> The reason we've added some documents to get earlier reviews >>> to increase the regularity of reviews being asked of you in >>> the tsv-art (and, also, earlier review is good). Currently >>> we count on you to volunteer, rather than trying to dispatch >>> assignments. Perhaps seeing documents earlier will help you >>> to consistently offer 1-2 reviews per month to support >>> Spencer and Mirja. >>> >>> If you agree that a document needs review by someone of your >>> expertise, but you are too busy, we'll be very happy for you >>> to identify and ask another person with your expertise to do >>> the review. Just let us know by cc'ing tsv-triage@ietf.org >>> <mailto:tsv-triage@ietf.org>. This will also help us to >>> expand the tsv-art. >>> >>> In the document lists, if a date is present, it signifies >>> the end of the IETF LC. To help you decide to review, I've >>> included a quick cut at the TSV topic needing attention (in >>> brackets), but don't consider these hints to be comprehensive. >>> >>> _Documents that require TSV attention_ >>> Last Calls >>> - draft-ietf-ipsecme-ddos-protection-09[congestion/rate >>> control] - 9/28 >>> - draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel-08 [tunneling] - 9/30 >>> - draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-13.txt [ECN] - 10/10 >>> AD Review >>> - draft-ietf-6lo-6lobac-05.txt [MTU] >>> - draft-ietf-6lo-dect-ule-05.txt [MTU] >>> - draft-ietf-manet-credit-window-04 [receiver-based flow >>> control over TCP?] >>> - draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-rfc6810-bis-07.txt [updated tsv >>> requirements] >>> >>> >>> _Documents that may require TSV attention_ >>> AD Review >>> - draft-ietf-6tisch-minimal-16.txt [link-level rxt] >>> - draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension-06.txt >>> [advertising link discrete variable bws] >>> - draft-ietf-manet-dlep-24.txt [dynamic link exchange >>> carried by TCP] >>> - draft-ietf-webpush-protocol-09.txt [https-level >>> reliability to devices] >>> >>> >>> _Documents that do not require TSV attention_ >>> Last Call >>> - draft-ietf-cose-msg-18 >>> - draft-ietf-6lo-paging-dispatch-04 >>> - draft-ietf-ippm-6man-pdm-option-06 [TSV doc] >>> - draft-ietf-ipsecme-safe-curves-04 >>> - draft-ietf-lisp-crypto-07 >>> - draft-ietf-lisp-lcaf-15 >>> - draft-ietf-regext-epp-rdap-status-mapping-01 >>> - draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-12 >>> - draft-ietf-tictoc-multi-path-synchronization-05.txt >>> - draft-levine-herkula-oneclick-06.txt >>> - draft-murchison-nntp-compress-05.txt >>> - draft-weis-gdoi-iec62351-9-08.txt >>> AD Review >>> - draft-adid-urn-00.txt >>> - draft-holmberg-dispatch-mcptt-rp-namespace-02.txt >>> - draft-ietf-6lo-privacy-considerations-03.txt >>> - draft-ietf-appsawg-mdn-3798bis-12.txt >>> - draft-ietf-behave-syslog-nat-logging-06 [TSV doc] >>> - draft-ietf-l3sm-l3vpn-service-model-15.txt >>> - draft-ietf-netconf-yang-patch-11.txt >>> - draft-ietf-p2psip-share-08.txt >>> - draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-05.txt >>> - draft-ietf-pim-join-attributes-for-lisp-04.txt >>> - draft-ietf-roll-routing-dispatch-01.txt >>> - draft-ietf-savi-mix-11.txt >>> - draft-ietf-sfc-control-plane-07.txt >>> - draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol-18.txt >>> - draft-sparks-genarea-interim-management-00.txt >>> - draft-sparks-genarea-manualpost-tracking-00.txt >>> - draft-spinosa-urn-lex-09.txt >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Allison (on Triage duty) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tsv-art mailing list >>> Tsv-art@ietf.org <mailto:Tsv-art@ietf.org> >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsv-art >>> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsv-art> >>
- [Tsv-art] ACTION NEEDED: TSV reviewers for IETF L… Allison Mankin
- Re: [Tsv-art] ACTION NEEDED: TSV reviewers for IE… Joe Touch
- Re: [Tsv-art] ACTION NEEDED: TSV reviewers for IE… Allison Mankin
- Re: [Tsv-art] ACTION NEEDED: TSV reviewers for IE… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [Tsv-art] ACTION NEEDED: TSV reviewers for IE… Joe Touch
- Re: [Tsv-art] ACTION NEEDED: TSV reviewers for IE… Joe Touch
- Re: [Tsv-art] ACTION NEEDED: TSV reviewers for IE… Allison Mankin
- Re: [Tsv-art] ACTION NEEDED: TSV reviewers for IE… Joe Touch
- Re: [Tsv-art] ACTION NEEDED: TSV reviewers for IE… Black, David
- Re: [Tsv-art] ACTION NEEDED: TSV reviewers for IE… Magnus Westerlund