Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted
Uma Chunduri <umac.ietf@gmail.com> Sat, 25 April 2020 00:07 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted
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Hi Jake, Quick comments below On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 1:31 PM Holland, Jake <jholland= 40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > Hi Jerome, > > I’m glad it’s possibly helpful. I’ll try to answer your questions and > expand a bit on the vision I had in mind, responses are inline with > <JH></JH> > > > *From: *"Jerome Henry (jerhenry)" <jerhenry=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> > *Date: *Monday, April 20, 2020 at 11:31 AM > *To: *"Holland, Jake" <jholland@akamai.com> > *Cc: *"jerhenry=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org" <jerhenry@cisco.com>, " > tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted > *Date: *Monday, April 20, 2020 at 11:31 AM > *To: *"Holland, Jake" <jholland@akamai.com> > *Cc: *"jerhenry=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org" <jerhenry@cisco.com>, " > tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted > > Hi Jake, > > This is very useful feedback. In this effort, it seems that we want to > arbitrate between different needs. In the scenario we envision, an > enterprise has a series of assets of various types, and they leverage a > dual connection (MPTCP, QUIC etc) between cellular and unlicensed (let’s > call it Wi-FI, although it can be something else). As traffic reaches the > other side (application server with at least a Diffserv path to the asset), > the hope is that both sides would have treated the packets in an > approximatively comparable fashion. > > Would you mind exploring your idea a bit further? In all cases, the actor > is likely an enterprise IT. They can negotiate an SLA with the carrier(s) > they work with. This could result in a series of QCIs attached to the > various traffic they would send. Now, their goal is to attempt to get the > same intent on both legs. They may not be LTE experts. > > <JH> > The “(s)” in “carrier(s)” is the trickiest part here, I think, and a major > driver for proposing a dynamic approach. > > right; but I would note, even in single carrier scenario this could potentially give vendor agnostic behavior. > I assume here that the different carriers might have different markings for > similar PHBs that might be hard for them to change. (For instance, the > choices might be from hardware-driven constraints from their vendors, or > perhaps due to things like legacy internal use cases within the carrier > that drove an assignment some time ago, which now can’t be easily changed.) > > this should/need not be the case, say, if new code points are proposed (depending on the type of traffic we are talking, of course). The proposal is intended as a way that the carrier has the ability, with a > relatively simple deployment of a simple service, to advertise the right > markings that should be used for that network, and that these can be > different from network-to-network, yet still usable by hosts, with apps > that have a use for specific, named PHBs for their traffic. > </JH> > > very good start! Best, -- Uma C. >
- [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Jerome Henry (jerhenry)
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Gengxuesong (Geng Xuesong)
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Black, David
- [tsvwg] 答复: Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Gengxuesong (Geng Xuesong)
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Holland, Jake
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Black, David
- [tsvwg] 答复: Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Gengxuesong (Geng Xuesong)
- Re: [tsvwg] 答复: Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Jerome Henry (jerhenry)
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Gengxuesong (Geng Xuesong)
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Ruediger.Geib
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Jerome Henry (jerhenry)
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Ruediger.Geib
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Jerome Henry (jerhenry)
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Uma Chunduri
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Ruediger.Geib
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Ruediger.Geib
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Holland, Jake
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Uma Chunduri
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Uma Chunduri
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Luis M. Contreras
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Jerome Henry (jerhenry)
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Holland, Jake
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Ruediger.Geib
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Ruediger.Geib
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Jerome Henry (jerhenry)
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Jerome Henry (jerhenry)
- Re: [tsvwg] Draft diffuser to QCI v04 posted Holland, Jake