Re: [Tsvwg] viewgraphs for a talk in tsvwg in Yokohama tomorrow
"Andrei Gurtov" <gurtov@cs.helsinki.fi> Thu, 18 July 2002 12:37 UTC
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From: Andrei Gurtov <gurtov@cs.helsinki.fi>
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Subject: Re: [Tsvwg] viewgraphs for a talk in tsvwg in Yokohama tomorrow
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Sally- I have a few comments on Limited Slow-Start for TCP with Large Congestion Windows. I've been looking at the slow start overshoot in the context of slow wireless networks. The control block interdependence seems to be a very good way to deal with it, as it stores ssthresh from a previous connection and nicely avoids the overshoot (e.g. Figure 7, p. 28 in http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/gurtov/papers/ms_thesis.html). It also seems to be more conservative than just starting with unlimited initial ssthresh. An interesting question is whether the slow start overshoot could be prevented by an active queue management in the bottleneck queue. RED is not helpful here as the drop probability is based on the moving average of the queue size which is generally too slow to react to the exponential TCP slow-start. I proposed a method for queues with a low level of multiplexing which is to drop a single packet from a TCP connection when the queue is over a soft threshold and then wait for a while to let TCP to move from slow start to congestion avoidance (p. 64). Could something like that be done in a larger scale? Probably not without keeping some per-connection state in the router. Would it be helpful also to include a discussion on another proposed solution which is the overdamping algorithm in the FACK paper? Andrei ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally Floyd" <floyd@icir.org> To: <tsvwg@ietf.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:41 PM Subject: [Tsvwg] viewgraphs for a talk in tsvwg in Yokohama tomorrow > I am giving a talk in tsvwg tomorrow in Yokohama on the two > drafts on HighSpeed TCP: > > HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestion Windows, > draft-floyd-tcp-highspeed-00.txt > > and: > > Limited Slow-Start for TCP with Large Congestion Windows, > draft-floyd-tcp-slowstart-00.txt > > The viewgraphs are at: > http://www.icir.org/floyd/talks/floyd-tsvwg-Jul02.ps > http://www.icir.org/floyd/talks/floyd-tsvwg-Jul02.pdf > > There is also a HighSpeed Web Page at: > http://www.icir.org/floyd/hstcp.html > > ------ > > If there is time, I might also talk briefly about a somewhat > more speculative draft: > > Quick-Start for TCP and IP, > draft-amit-quick-start-00.txt > > The viewgraphs for this are at the end of the other viewgraph file. > > Quick-Start is designed to allow connections to start up more > quickly than slow-start, after a pass of feedback from all of > the routers along the path. > > > Thanks, > - Sally > > > > _______________________________________________ > tsvwg mailing list > tsvwg@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsvwg > _______________________________________________ tsvwg mailing list tsvwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsvwg
- [Tsvwg] viewgraphs for a talk in tsvwg in Yokoham… Sally Floyd
- Re: [Tsvwg] viewgraphs for a talk in tsvwg in Yok… Andrei Gurtov
- Re: [Tsvwg] viewgraphs for a talk in tsvwg in Yok… Marco Mellia
- [Tsvwg] Until what capacity does TCP congestion c… stanislav shalunov
- [Tsvwg] Re: Until what capacity does TCP congesti… Marco Mellia
- Re: [Tsvwg] Until what capacity does TCP congesti… stanislav shalunov
- [Tsvwg] Re: Limited Slow-Start for TCP with Large… Reiner Ludwig
- [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestion Wi… Reiner Ludwig
- Re: [Tsvwg] Re: Limited Slow-Start for TCP with L… Joe Touch