Re: [tsvwg] Way forward for UDP option FRAGs with limited router hardwara

Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Thu, 07 April 2022 18:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] Way forward for UDP option FRAGs with limited router hardwara
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Ps - it might be a LOT simpler to say that limited routers should use only per fragment options. We can then leave things as they are and avoid the complexity of varying format interpretations. 

Joe