Re: [Tsvwg] F-RTO and SCTP (was: SCTP Timestamps)
"Brian F. G. Bidulock" <bidulock@openss7.org> Wed, 06 August 2003 05:20 UTC
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From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" <bidulock@openss7.org>
To: Qiaobing Xie <Qiaobing.Xie@motorola.com>
Cc: Kacheong Poon <kacheong.poon@sun.com>, tsvwg@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Tsvwg] F-RTO and SCTP (was: SCTP Timestamps)
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Qiaobing, I agree. And please do not forget that SCTP was first designed to meet a set of requirements for transporting telephony signalling protocols. If those requirements fail to be met by SCTP, yet another transport protocol will become necessary again. --brian On Tue, 05 Aug 2003, Qiaobing Xie wrote: > Kacheong Poon wrote: > > > ...I'd suggest > > those SCTP stacks to support ASCONF so that the retransmission > > can automatically be made to an alternate address. This seems > > to be a better way to handle it than relying on a "guess" of NIC > > failure as there is no need to guess at all. > > So you want to rely on an external monitor/detector mechanism at the > peer endpoint that will tell the peer SCTP stack a NIC is bad and then > the remote stack will do a "change primary addr" through ASCONF so that > the local endpoint will start to move the traffic to an alternative dest > addr? Ok, now you have no need to guess since the remote external > detector is doing the "guessing" :-) > > But this would essentially remove most of the SCTP's auto path failure > detection / recovery capabilities and take out a big chunk of SCTP's > multi-homing advantage. I think this is too costly for whatever we are > trying to gain here. > > regards, > -Qiaobing > > _______________________________________________ > tsvwg mailing list > tsvwg@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsvwg -- Brian F. G. Bidulock ¦ The reasonable man adapts himself to the ¦ bidulock@openss7.org ¦ world; the unreasonable one persists in ¦ http://www.openss7.org/ ¦ trying to adapt the world to himself. ¦ ¦ Therefore all progress depends on the ¦ ¦ unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw ¦ _______________________________________________ tsvwg mailing list tsvwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsvwg
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