[Tsvwg] Comments on draft-morita-tsvwg-pps
"Geib, Ruediger" <Ruediger.Geib@t-systems.com> Fri, 08 August 2003 16:05 UTC
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From: "Geib, Ruediger" <Ruediger.Geib@t-systems.com>
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Hello Naotaka, I think that pps is a good idea. Having not to maintain QoS signaling state in a backbone router is a pretty good thing to do. Some comments on contents: Section 4 suggests two stage monitoring of end-system behaviour. I agree that abuse must be prevented at the source. You don't talk of signaling there, but I guess it could be part of a two stage monitoring solution (you mention however a "declared peak bit rate" - sounds like signaling to me). Section 5 is about system behaviour in the case of congestion. Would something like an "explicit congestion notification" of the backbone be useful? If end systems could, as a reaction on such a congestion indication, use codecs with lower bit rate for their MF-H traffic, additional calls may be accepted. Section 7.1: I'm not a queuing expert, but why would MF-M traffic see higher jitter? Aren't all MF packet in the same queue and those tagged as MF-M are discarded earlier? The result is higher loss probability, which is intended. But it shouldn't be higher jitter (don't earlier losses make it look like a "shorter" queue?). Section 7.4 suggests the transmitter not to pause at the edge. ISPs may charge on volume and customers won't be happy if their terminal creates traffic while they aren't active. I understand the issue and I should offer an alternative. Some form of signaling based admission control in combination with measurements? Section 7.5: The RMONMIB WG maintains some drafts promoting RAQMON. I'm not familiar with details, but your media monitoring server might require similar functionality. If you are interested: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmonmib-raqmon-framework-02.txt Regards, RĂ¼diger RĂ¼diger Geib T-Systems Systems Integration Senior Expert, Technologiezentrum Am Kavalleriesand 3, 64295 Darmstadt Germany Fon: +49 6151 832138 http://www.t-systems.com _______________________________________________ tsvwg mailing list tsvwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsvwg
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