Re: [Tsvwg] draft-davie-tsvwg-rsvp-l3vpn-01.txt - comments
Francois Le Faucheur IMAP <flefauch@cisco.com> Wed, 28 November 2007 20:02 UTC
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From: Francois Le Faucheur IMAP <flefauch@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [Tsvwg] draft-davie-tsvwg-rsvp-l3vpn-01.txt - comments
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:01:52 +0100
To: Yakov Rekhter <yakov@juniper.net>
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Hi Yakov, On 27 Nov 2007, at 02:28, Yakov Rekhter wrote: > Francois, > >> Hi Ferit, >> >> Thanks for your interest and comments. Thoughts on some of the points >> >> you bring up embedded below: >> >> On 21 Nov 2007, at 16:44, Yegenoglu, Ferit wrote: >> >>> Hi Bruce, Francois, and Ashok, >>> >>> >>> I enjoyed reading your new draft =93draft-davie-tsvwg-rsvp- >>> l3vpn-01.txt.=94 We are working on some problems that can benefit >>> from the solutions that your draft is proposing. I have the >>> following comments/questions: >>> >>> >>> 1) As far as I can tell, your draft is also applicable to the >>> case where the aggregation region (per RFC 4804) is outside of the >>> provider network, that is when the CE-PE interface is actually =20 >>> carrying aggregate RSVP messages. Can you confirm this? If this >>> is =20 >>> correct I would suggest adding a note to that effect in your draft. >> This is correct. It is also applicable to RFC4804 sessions (as >> well =20 >> as RFC3175 sessions for that matter). We'll add a statement to >> that =20 >> effect. >>> >>> 5) Is there a reference for the approaches summarized in >>> Appendix A.2 and A.3? >>> we're not aware of references documenting these other approaches in >>> further details. >>> From the brief descriptions provided in your draft I have a feeling >>> that they may not work for the inter-AS Option B case as it may not >>> be possible to uniquely identify sessions between two ASBRs. > >> Right. Or perhaps more accurately, they would require further >> extensions to operate in inter-AS Option B. > > Could you elaborate on what "further extensions" be required. To make the approach described in Appendix A.3 work in inter-AS Option B, one avenue would be to get ASBR to : * readvertise VRF-labels (with "dummy addresses") * process RSVP messages and maintain RSVP states within VRF context * be able to do IP lookup inside VRF context in order to forward Path (as we discussed together) presumably maintaining VRF-like tables * swap dummy addresses inside Path message PHOP when forwarding them (for forwarding of Resv upstream) Also, regarding Appendix A.3 approach, a method would have to be defined to allow the ingress-PE to pick the right VRF-label to apply when forwarding the Path message in the first place (eg in the simpler case of intra-AS: ingress-PE knows the egress-PE, but how exactly does ingress-PE pick the right VRF-label out of the multiple advertised by the egress-PE?). Cheers Francois > > Yakov.
- [Tsvwg] draft-davie-tsvwg-rsvp-l3vpn-01.txt - com… Yegenoglu, Ferit
- Re: [Tsvwg] draft-davie-tsvwg-rsvp-l3vpn-01.txt -… Francois Le Faucheur IMAP
- Re: [Tsvwg] draft-davie-tsvwg-rsvp-l3vpn-01.txt -… Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [Tsvwg] draft-davie-tsvwg-rsvp-l3vpn-01.txt -… Francois Le Faucheur IMAP