Re: [tsvwg] FW: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11-01.txt

[Lou Berger <[e-mail]>]

out of curiosity, am I the only one who is still bothered by
labeling/equating DiffServ with QoS (vs Cos)?

Asked another way, does this group still differentiate between QoS and
CoS (service level) as it once did?

Thanks,
Lou

On March 28, 2016 6:38:44 PM "Tim Szigeti (szigeti)" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Hi TSVWG,
>
> As the majority of clients connecting to IP networks are doing so via 
> WLANs, and since IEEE recommendations for QoS do not align with IETF 
> recommendations, it would be highly beneficial to have an IETF-endorsed 
> reconciliation between IETF IP QoS and IEEE WMM QoS, which is the intent of 
> draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11.
>
> Apple, Cisco and other vendors are all planning on developing solutions in 
> the coming months based on a consistent IETF-ratified set of QoS mappings. 
> If you have stake/opinion/feedback in making sure that QoS is handled 
> correctly at wired/wireless edges, then please read the draft and help us 
> pass this through.
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11-00
>
> [Otherwise, the only guidance in this area is based on non-IETF 
> recommendations (e.g. GSMA <--> WMM)]
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> -tim
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 8:36 AM
> To: Fred Baker (fred)
> Cc: [e-mail]; Tim Szigeti (szigeti)
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for 
> draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11-01.txt
>
>
> True. This will appear on the draft agenda. We will need to get some people 
> sufficiently excited to allocate some cycles to read and continue to 
> comment on the draft.
>
> I'm assuming you'll ask for adoption (which seems reasonable). At which 
> point I'll ask who has read or plans to read this? Let's hope the room is 
> not deadly quiet. We'll move on from there.
>
> gorry
>
>> I haven't heard anything from  you...
>>
>> Please consider this a request for an agenda slot.
>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> From: "Fred Baker (fred)" <[e-mail]>
>>> Subject: [tsvwg] Fwd: New Version Notification for
>>> draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11-01.txt
>>> Date: March 15, 2016 at 12:02:20 PM PDT
>>> To: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
>>>
>>>> From: <[e-mail]>
>>>> Subject: New Version Notification for
>>>> draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11-01.txt
>>>> Date: March 15, 2016 at 11:28:58 AM PDT
>>>> To: Fred Baker <[e-mail]>, Tim Szigeti <[e-mail]>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A new version of I-D, draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11-01.txt
>>>> has been successfully submitted by Fred Baker and posted to the IETF
>>>> repository.
>>>>
>>>> Name:		draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11
>>>> Revision:	01
>>>> Title:		Guidelines for DiffServ to IEEE 802.11 Mapping
>>>> Document date:	2016-03-14
>>>> Group:		Individual Submission
>>>> Pages:		27
>>>> URL:
>>>> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11
>>>> -01.txt
>>>> Status:
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11/
>>>> Htmlized:
>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11-01
>>>> Diff:
>>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11-01
>>>>
>>>> Abstract:
>>>>  As internet traffic is increasingly sourced-from and destined-to
>>>> wireless endpoints, it is crucial that Quality of Service be aligned
>>>> between wired and wireless networks; however, this is not always the
>>>> case by default.  This is due to the fact that two independent
>>>> standards bodies provide QoS guidance on wired and wireless networks:
>>>>  specifically, the IETF specifies standards and design
>>>> recommendations  for wired IP networks, while a separate and
>>>> autonomous standards-  body, the IEEE, administers the standards for
>>>> wireless 802.11  networks.  The purpose of this document is to
>>>> propose a set  Differentiated Services Code Point (DSCP) to IEEE
>>>> 802.11 User  Priority (UP) mappings to reconcile the marking
>>>> recommendations  offered by these two standards bodies, and, as
>>>> such, to optimize  wired-and-wireless interconnect QoS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
>>>> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at
>>>> tools.ietf.org.
>>>>
>>>> The IETF Secretariat
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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