Re: draft-ietf-tsvwg-intserv-multiple-tspec-00 submitted

Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Wed, 06 July 2011 18:27 UTC

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James,
	Since you ask...

I thought this would be a good time to revive our discussion from March.
 As a reminder, here is the salient part of the discussion:

On 3/18/2011 5:04 PM, James M. Polk wrote:
>> > At 05:46 PM 3/17/2011, Lou Berger wrote:
...
>> >1) a real nit:
>> >I suspect that the <flow descriptor list> RBNF is broken, and
>> >[MULTI_FLOWSPEC] should be [ <MULTI_FLOWSPEC> ] .
> yep, sorry - this is obvious
>
>> >  (You might want to add a reference to 5511 too.)
> probably
>
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>> >2) I could see this as a more generally applicable problem, in
>> >particular it could apply to the non-IntServ class types supported by
>> >RSVP (TSPEC/FLOWSPEC).  What do you think about having the MULT_xxSPEC
>> >objects being defined solely on the RSVP level (perhaps using
>> >subobjects) rather than as defined now which is a change to RSVP and
>> >IntServ?
> Hadn't thought about this before. We'll think about how this would
> work and if there are any gotchas.

Have you had any further thoughts?  I think this would have the real
benefit that it can apply to all flowspec types.

Lou

On 7/3/2011 8:17 PM, James M. Polk wrote:
> TSVWG
> 
> (with my individual hat on)
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> We'd like to draw your attention to the newest WG item within TSVWG.
> 
> The authors made only a couple of individual modifications from the 
> individual version that was approved as a WG item:
> 
> - clarified how this extension also extends RFC 4495 (RSVP Bandwidth 
> Reduction), and
> - added some text to the security considerations section
> 
> The top item has to do with good network hygiene - correcting as soon 
> as possible when too much BW was reserved (that is no longer needed) 
> within part of a reservation setup. The latter item was directly from 
> a review comment.
> 
> Both of these we thought we low hanging fruit, so we put them in this 
> version. Any further changes needs WG approval in our opinion.
> 
> Comments are encouraged and/or requested.
> 
> James & Subha
> 
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
>> directories. This draft is a work item of the Transport Area Working 
>> Group Working Group of the IETF.
>>
>>         Title           : Integrated Services (IntServ) Extension 
>> to Allow Signaling of Multiple Traffic Specifications and Multiple 
>> Flow Specifications in RSVPv1
>>         Author(s)       : James Polk
>>                           Subha Dhesikan
>>         Filename        : draft-ietf-tsvwg-intserv-multiple-tspec-00.txt
>>         Pages           : 26
>>         Date            : 2011-07-03
>>
>>    This document defines extensions to Integrated Services (IntServ)
>>    allowing  multiple traffic specifications and multiple flow
>>    specifications to be conveyed in the same Resource Reservation
>>    Protocol (RSVPv1) reservation message exchange. This ability helps
>>    optimize an agreeable bandwidth through a network between endpoints
>>    in a single round trip.
>>
>>
>> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-tsvwg-intserv-multiple-tspec-00.txt
>>
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
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>> This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at:
>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-tsvwg-intserv-multiple-tspec-00.txt
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