Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-qos-12 - ends Feb 13
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To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, "Black, David" <david.black@emc.com>, "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-qos-12 - ends Feb 13
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Brian, >> I see two reasonable options: >> - Use CS0 (000000) [same as DF] and indicate that this may change in >>the future. >> - Use CS1 (001000) with all the warnings and caveats that have been >>discussed. >> There's more at the end of Section 3 in RFC 7657 which is already >>cited >> in the discussion after table 1, although an additional noted >> that this material is at the end of Section 3 could be useful. >> >> Prior to Brian's comments, the draft was headed for the latter. > >If the rough consensus is to recommend 001000 that's OK. But I really >think >we are propagating confusion by naming it CS1, because that is the name >of a different behaviour. It's LE (001000). Let me preface my reply by saying that I don't want to hold up the document by asking... James Polk was actively working on RFC 4954bis, restructuring some of the code points and groups, etc. I know he spent a lot of hours thinking about what he wanted, but I don't know how far he got in writing it down. He did publish a few drafts, but I suspect he had other changes that never made it into the draft. The latest draft published was https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-polk-tsvwg-rfc4594-update-03. In August 2015, Fred Baker sent a note to the list about revising 4594. There seemed to be general agreement that it was starting to show signs of aging AND that it would be a lot of work. I don't know what the thoughts were around revising it, whether it's entirely different or along the lines of what James had started. But, perhaps this is just one more reason why those who are experts in this area should perhaps spend some cycles to revise that text? Personally, I think there would be some benefit in having an updated spec that is standards track. Paul
- [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-qos-1… Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Michael Welzl
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Michael Welzl
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Anna Brunstrom
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Anna Brunstrom
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Michael Welzl
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Anna Brunstrom
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Michael Welzl
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… gorry
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-q… Paul E. Jones