[tsvwg] draft-chan-tsvwg-eipf-cgnat-00

Louis Chan <louisc@juniper.net> Thu, 30 June 2022 06:32 UTC

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From: Louis Chan <louisc@juniper.net>
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Hi,

I post a draft on CGNAT topic here
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chan-tsvwg-eipf-cgnat/

It is about how to solve P2P direction TCP connection issue under CGNAT situation.
UDP hole punching is the only workable solution in live today.
The purpose is to find a more deterministic method to achieve for TCP.

Rgds
Louis


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