Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestion Windows
Sally Floyd <floyd@icir.org> Sun, 11 August 2002 15:37 UTC
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To: Reiner Ludwig <Reiner.Ludwig@ericsson.com>
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From: Sally Floyd <floyd@icir.org>
Subject: Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestion Windows
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Reiner - >Such applications would have to move *terra* bytes *back-to-back* to start >having that problem. I'm not convinced that such applications are running >on the *public* Internet today or in the foreseeable future. Please, >convince me if you think otherwise. ... >As it stands, it seems that the ID describes a solution for a problem that >nobody has today or will could have tomorrow. Also, my understanding is >that IETF WGs only deal with *real world* problems, and that the more >academic problems are dealt with in the research community. My understanding had been that the IETF was the right place to bring proposed changes to TCP congestion control, whether the changes were motivated by the needs of what is currently a small subset of the community with underutilyzed high-bandwidth pipes at their disposal, or whether the changes were motivated by pressing concerns that affect the vast majority of users. But I assume that the tsvwg co-chairs can clarify this for us. My own understanding is that the HighSpeed draft describes a solution for a problem that a small subset of people have today, and that is not a very pressing problem at any rate (given the alternate solution of opening N parallel TCP connections). However, my own view would be that this issue is clearly approriate to bring to the IETF. If people judge otherwise, that is fine by me. My own *personal* view is that HighSpeed TCP would be an appropriate work item for tsvwg, and further, that it would make perfect sense for the HighSpeed TCP draft, and the related Limited Slow-Start draft, to become Experimental RFCs, in the fullness of time, and then to sink or swim on the basis of further experimental evaluation. But if the IESG, the ADs, or the rough consensus of the working group judge otherwise, again, that is certainly fine by me. I am certainly not trying to argue that this is one of the more pressing or earth-shattering issues on the table, just that it strikes me as a appropriate issue to bring to the IETF, as the standards body responsible for the standardization of TCP. - Sally http://www.icir.org/floyd/ _______________________________________________ tsvwg mailing list tsvwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsvwg
- [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestion Wi… Sally Floyd
- Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestio… Joe Touch
- Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestio… Joe Touch
- Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestio… Sally Floyd
- Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestio… Reiner Ludwig
- Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestio… Sally Floyd
- Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestio… Joe Touch
- Fwd: Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Cong… Reiner Ludwig
- Fwd: Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Cong… Reiner Ludwig
- Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestio… Reiner Ludwig
- Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestio… Sally Floyd
- Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestio… Marco Mellia
- RE: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestio… Black_David
- Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestio… Arun Prasad
- Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestio… Joe Touch
- RE: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestio… Black_David
- Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestio… Joe Touch
- Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestio… Sally Floyd
- Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestio… Mark Allman
- Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestio… Marco Mellia
- Re: [Tsvwg] Re: HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestio… Mark Allman