Re: [Tsvwg] Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-tsvwg-diffserv-class-aggr (Aggregation of DiffServ Service Classes) to Informational RFC

[Magnus Westerlund <[e-mail]>]

Hi,

My reading of this thread of comments is that there is no reason to
change anything regarding the document. I will therefore progress this
document towards approval.

Regards

Magnus Westerlund

Brian E Carpenter skrev:
> On 2007-10-05 05:38, ken carlberg wrote:
>>
>>> I don't recall when was the last (Diffserv-based) QoS talk at NANOG
>>> or similar operator-rich meeting.  (Sure, there is the tutorial, but
>>> it doesn't count.)
>>
>> I would be concerned if outside groups spent time arguing "foo" is
>> bad, or if they advocated other positions to the same issue.  But I
>> tend to feel quite uncomfortable with litmus tests based on inactivity
>> of other groups/people.  My personal view is that advocates of that
>> line of reasoning place a bigger burden on themselves in providing
>> specific in-depth arguments.
>>
>>> Seems like a potential indication that most typical ISPs aren't
>>> working on or interested in this, this stuff is so trivial, or that
>>> coordination is not necessary.
>>
>> i appreciate work that is trivial because its generally simple, easy
>> to accomplish, and leads to fewer interoperability issues.  as for
>> ISPs, its fascinating the disparity of how quiet and talkative they
>> are depending on what side of the NDA you are on :-)
> 
> In any case, if Pekka is correct, that's *exactly* why this
> draft and RFC 4594 are needed - to lay a minimum foundation on which
> ISPs can build operational practices and SLAs.
> 
> It's always been clear to me that voice and video would be the main
> drivers for uptake of diffserv, and Marshall's comments confirm
> that. As that type of traffic grows, ISPs won't have any choice.
> Guidnace from the IETF seems entirely appropriate.
> 
>      Brian
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