Re: [Tsvwg] EndPoint and Association Address conflict

Michael Tuexen <Michael.Tuexen@icn.siemens.de> Mon, 29 April 2002 20:27 UTC

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 21:54:59 +0200
Subject: Re: [Tsvwg] EndPoint and Association Address conflict
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Cc: Qiaobing Xie <qxie1@email.mot.com>, Ivan.Arias-Rodriguez@nokia.com, bidulock@openss7.org, Qiaobing Xie <Qiaobing.Xie@motorola.com>, s_balani@trillium.com, mo_khan@trillium.com, h_pillai@trillium.com, jheitz@lucent.com, tsvwg@ietf.org
To: Randall Stewart <randall@stewart.chicago.il.us>
From: Michael Tuexen <Michael.Tuexen@icn.siemens.de>
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Dear all,

since we agree on the end-point terminology we can go further.

See my comment below.

Best regards
Michael

On Monday, April 29, 2002, at 08:44 PM, Randall Stewart wrote:

> Qiaobing Xie wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Ivan:
>>
>> Ivan.Arias-Rodriguez@nokia.com wrote:
>> ....snip....
>>>
>>>         Summarizing:
>>>
>>>         - An endpoint can use a subset of the source addresses of the 
>>> host.
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>>         - An association, can use a subset of the source addresses of 
>>> the
>>>           endpoint to which it belongs.
>>
>> No, this is incorrect.
>>
>
> Sorry it IS correct. Forget add-ip.. if you say the above then
> a basic bound-all endpoint begins to violate this new "rule"
> when you plug in a new card and ifconfig it up.
>
> There is no reason that an endpoint can't have associations that
> end up using a sub-set of the endpoints addresses. And I have
> shown in my previous email what will happen if this endpoints
> silly peer attempts to INIT to the NEW address... It all
> works out..
>
> R
I'm not sure what the term 'an association can use a subset of IP 
addresses' means.
I'm interpreting it as 'use the address in an INIT or INIT-ACK chunk'. 
Taking that
definition, I think, the address scoping of IPv6 (and IPv4) will reduce 
the set
of used IP addresses possibly to a proper subset of the address of the 
end-point.
Is this correct?
>
>> All associations coming out of an endpoint MUST use all the source
>> addresses of the endpoint all the time. However, the address set of the
>> endpoint can change over time (by adding or deleting IPs). Whenever 
>> that
>> happens ALL the existing associations coming out of the endpoint MUST 
>> be
>> updated to the new address set (this is why we have ASCONF exchanges).
>> Moreover, there are rules over how the address set of the endpoint can
>> be changed. That is what I sent out in my previous email.
>>
>> regards,
>> -Qiaobing
>>
>>>
>>>         I would very much appreciate comments about this mail...
>>>
>>>         Thanks a lot!
>>>
>>>         BR Iván Arias Rodríguez
>
> --
> Randall R. Stewart
> randall@stewart.chicago.il.us 815-342-5222 (cell phone)
>
Michael.Tuexen@micmac.franken.de


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