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Re: [GNAP] Concerns with the lack of progression of GNAP after 20 months of work

Fabien Imbault <fabien.imbault@gmail.com> Tue, 01 March 2022 17:51 UTC

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From: Fabien Imbault <fabien.imbault@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2022 18:51:37 +0100
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Subject: Re: [GNAP] Concerns with the lack of progression of GNAP after 20 months of work
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Denis,

All of your issues on the core draft already got their answers, in full and
extensive details both in writing and during public calls. The "repeating"
part is a fact visible in the tracking issues.

I agree that there is remaining work on the RS draft and can commit working
on that.

Best regards
Fabien

On Tue, 1 Mar 2022, 18:00 Denis, <denis.ietf@free.fr> wrote:

> Leif,
>
> My initial email from this morning raised numerous issues. Instead of
> replying to them using technical or factual arguments,
> they have all been swept by using a single sentence by using the wording
> "repeating your misconceptions" which is an offence
> (or taken as such). Using such wording is not constructive.
>
> A message with the topic"embedding GNAP" got no reply from the WG, except
> one from a co-editor.
> Do you interpret such response as a support from the WG ?
>
> The key question is whether the model should only be *AS-centric *(as it
> currently is) or should also allow to be *RS-centric*.
> The first model is adequate for an enterprise or a closed community while
> the later is adequate for the WWW.
> This is an important issue.
>
> Denis
>
> On 2022-03-01 14:30, Denis wrote:
>
> Fabien,
>
> It is not useful to send flames.
>
>
> Denis,
>
> As chair I am wary of unsubstantiated comments in WG discussions. This is
> one such
> case: Fabien was not "sending flames" by any reasonable definition of the
> term.
>
> As a chair I am also aqutely aware of the fact that while you have written
> up your
> comments as an I-D (as we advised you to do) there have not been any
> indication
> of substantive support from the WG of this work whatsoever.
>
> This means that you are in the rough here. I am not telling you to stop
> making
> contributions but it is pretty clear that the WG does not agree with your
> views
> and you can't force people to agree with you in the IETF.
>
> If you wish to continue talking about your draft I encourage that but the
> txauth
> list is not the place for that. If you want to make contributions to the
> current
> active drafts in txauth that do not assume adoption of your draft or your
> point
> of view then pls continue.
>
>     Best R
>     Leif
>
>
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