Re: [GNAP] Resource Servers draft
Fabien Imbault <fabien.imbault@gmail.com> Mon, 10 May 2021 07:04 UTC
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From: Fabien Imbault <fabien.imbault@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 09:03:50 +0200
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Subject: Re: [GNAP] Resource Servers draft
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Yes, seems a good place for an extension registry. The most important is that we can support both simple tokens (jwt or equivalent, ex paseto) as well a capability tokens (biscuit, macaroon, zcap-ld), and define what's commonly supported. Yet it seems easier to keep to the rule of not including linked data as a dependency in the main documents (but that's a personal opinion). Fabien Le dim. 9 mai 2021 à 20:53, Adrian Gropper <agropper@healthurl.com> a écrit : > macaroons, biscuits, and ZCAP-LD > > - Adrian > > On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 2:34 PM Fabien Imbault <fabien.imbault@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Yaron, >> >> A comment on access token formats: I don't think we should define our own >> format, but we can reference other documents such as >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-bertocci-oauth-access-token-jwt >> and the references to macaroons, biscuits. >> >> The rest I believe makes good issues, most of which should be quick to >> fix. >> >> Cheers >> Fabien >> >> On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 4:00 PM Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Editors, >>> >>> >>> >>> Here’s a bunch of comments to the latest version (Editor’s Draft as of >>> today). Please respond with what is easy to fix, and what I should open an >>> issue for. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Yaron >>> >>> >>> >>> - Abstract: better use more concrete terms than "piece of software". >>> Even if this creates a dependency on the Terminology section. >>> - Typo: by (AS). >>> - "client-facing discovery mechanism" - I'm not seeing any >>> client-facing protocol in the document (and it wouldn't belong here anyway). >>> - Terminology: include a reference to the Terminology section of the >>> Core doc. >>> - Access Token Formats: IMO we should specify a minimal, generic >>> format in an appendix, as a non-normative starting point for developers. It >>> would be better than having each implementation make its own mistakes. >>> - Macaroons, biscuits, other baked goods: add a reference. >>> - AS Discovery: why do we need a "well known" URI? Either we use >>> GNAP Core to pass the AS address to the RS, and then we could pass a full >>> URI, or we don't, and then how does the RS even know how to find the AS? >>> - Protecting RS requests to the AS: the RS, by definition, owns >>> resources. This means that it needs to have a persistent identity, in >>> addition to the (ephemeral) keys being presented. Otherwise (especially >>> with TOFU registration) we could easily have Resource Servers squatting on >>> other people’s resources. It is very hard to manage the mapping of RS to >>> resources if we don't have such a persistent identity. >>> - Token Introspection: it is not clear to what depth we are defining >>> the API: is it only the existence of the "introspect" endpoint? Or do we >>> define a minimal set of standard attributes that need to be returned? The >>> API would not be useful for interoperability unless we define some of the >>> returned attributes. At the very least: "active". >>> - "client instance's request" - should be "Resource Server's >>> request". >>> - And we should add: the AS MUST validate that the token is >>> appropriate for the RS that presented it, and return an error otherwise. >>> - Typo: internal link to "token format". >>> - IANA Considerations: the "well known" URL should be registered >>> (BTW, it's a well-known *URI*). Also, please list the registries that we >>> need to establish. >>> >>> -- >>> TXAuth mailing list >>> TXAuth@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth >>> >> -- >> TXAuth mailing list >> TXAuth@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth >> >
- [GNAP] Resource Servers draft Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [GNAP] Resource Servers draft Fabien Imbault
- Re: [GNAP] Resource Servers draft Adrian Gropper
- Re: [GNAP] Resource Servers draft Fabien Imbault
- Re: [GNAP] Resource Servers draft Adrian Gropper
- Re: [GNAP] Resource Servers draft Fabien Imbault