Re: [Tzdist] WG Review: Time Zone Data Distribution Service (tzdist)
"Cristian F. Perez Monte" <cristian.perez@gridtics.frm.utn.edu.ar> Wed, 23 July 2014 21:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Tzdist] WG Review: Time Zone Data Distribution Service (tzdist)
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Hi all, I suggest a new simple network protocol for timezone data distribution without http for use in thin devices and IoT. Best Regards Cristian On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:21 AM, The IESG <iesg-secretary@ietf.org> wrote: > A new IETF working group has been proposed in the Applications Area. The > IESG has not made any determination yet. The following draft charter was > submitted, and is provided for informational purposes only. Please send > your comments to the IESG mailing list (iesg at ietf.org) by 2014-07-28. > > Time Zone Data Distribution Service (tzdist) > ------------------------------------------------ > Current Status: Proposed WG > > Assigned Area Director: > Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> > > Mailing list > Address: tzdist@ietf.org > To Subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tzdist > Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tzdist/ > > Charter: > > Time Zone Data Distribution Service (tzdist) > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > A time zone is a region that has a uniform local time for legal, > commercial, and social purposes, with some regions using daylight saving > time (DST) rules for part of the year. A local time is defined as a > standard offset from Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), and a set of DST > rules. Time zone data represents the history, current, and future local > time rules for these regions, together with an associated time zone > identifier. > > Time zone data is a critical element of computer systems and devices that > make use of local time. In particular, it is critical to any calendaring > and scheduling system, such as iCalendar (RFC 5545). Daylight saving > time rules, which affect local UTC offsets, can change - sometimes at > very short notice (just a few days) - as those rules are typically > defined by political processes. Currently, there is no efficient, fast > way to ensure that time zone data is updated in a timely and reliable > manner on devices that need it. Time zone changes are often delivered as > operating system updates, and are thus tied to release schedules that > can trail the actual time zone changes by a significant period of time. A > service is needed that can provide timely, reliable updates. > > One added benefit of such a service for iCalendar is the ability for > calendaring clients and servers to agree on common, standard definitions > of time zone data, removing the need to pass time zone data directly "by > value" in iCalendar data. By allowing clients and servers to use > time zones "by reference" significant network bandwidth and storage > savings can be achieved. > > This working group will: > > - Define a time zone data distribution protocol that allows for > efficient, timely updates of time zone data to be delivered to clients. > This protocol must scale to vast numbers of clients, such as the > potential "internet of things" devices, as well as to today's desktop > computers and servers. > > - Define an extension to CalDAV (RFC 4791) to allow clients and servers > to use time zones "by reference" to improve the efficiency of the overall > protocol. > > The working group will use the following drafts as initial input for its > work: > draft-douglass-timezone-service-11 > draft-daboo-caldav-timezone-ref-01 > > The working group will work under the following parameters: > > - The time zone data distribution protocol will initially be targeted at > iCalendar-based clients, but should be flexible enough to deliver > time zone data in other formats. > > - The time zone data will be based on the Time Zone Database > (http://www.iana.org/time-zones) but must be able to include any source > of time zone data. > > - The time zone data distribution protocol should also offer an API to > allow thin clients to easily make use of time zone data by querying for > UTC offsets, offloading the sometimes complex work of expanding > recurrence rules to the service. This API should be extensible to > support other types of time zone operations in the future. > > - The time zone data distribution protocol will use current security > protocols to protect the integrity and confidentiality of the data as > it is distributed, and may also address these issues with respect > to retrieval of data from its original source (such as the Time Zone > Database). Even public time zone data can represent a significant > privacy exposure when it is associated with the user or endpoint > that is retrieving it. > > The following are Out of scope for the working group: > > - Any changes to the Time Zone Database process or infrastructure, > as documented in RFC 6557. However, the WG may work with IANA > in order to make integrity checking information, such as public keys, > readily accessible for protocol use. > > - The naming process for time zone identifiers. The working group can > consider adding a mechanism, such as a "namespace" prefix, to > differentiate different time zone sources, but the nature of the time > zone > identifiers used will be controlled by the sources themselves. > > - Lookup protocols or APIs to map a location to a time zone. > > Milestones: > > TBD > > _______________________________________________ > Tzdist mailing list > Tzdist@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tzdist >
- [Tzdist] WG Review: Time Zone Data Distribution S… The IESG
- Re: [Tzdist] WG Review: Time Zone Data Distributi… Cristian F. Perez Monte
- Re: [Tzdist] WG Review: Time Zone Data Distributi… Barry Leiba