Re: Anyone there?
maria@xedia.com (Maria Greene) Wed, 06 May 1998 18:32 UTC
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Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 14:23:28 -0400
From: maria@xedia.com
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To: Chris Herzog <zog@stg.com>
Cc: ups-mib@CS.UTK.EDU
Subject: Re: Anyone there?
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Hi, Chris. >>>>> "Chris" == Chris Herzog <zog@stg.com> writes: Chris> Maria Greene wrote: >> There hasn't been any real discussion on this list for over a >> year. Does anybody care about this MIB? I'm not a UPS >> developer, nor do I play one on tv, so I would need real >> participation from you guys if this is to get done. >> >> One of our illustrious area directors (Bert Wijnen) has made >> this request: >> >> > So I would want the WG to decide on one of these: > >> a. Recycle a doc at Proposed (seems there is a list of wanted > >> changes that would require a recycle at Proposed). Chris> There was some pretty hot and heavy quite some time back Chris> (probably two years ago?) regarding adding support for Chris> receptacle control but I don't think any concensus was Chris> actually reached. Agreeing on a next set of revisions Chris> could be bloody... Have you seen Adam's document? Does it cover the items that were being discussed? Agreeing on changes is often bloody, but is it worth it in this case? >> > b. Move the doc to Draft (if the changes turn out not to >> require > a recycle at Proposed). It seems that there are >> multiple > implementations, not sure yet if they are >> interoperable. That > would have to be proven in this case. Chris> Same sort of issues as with a. I'd guess Hopefully the issues wouldn't be contentious (we'd just be making minor changes to the current draft with no substantive changes or additions), but we would have to dig out those implementation surveys and report on them. The minutes from the last WG meeting (which I'll post) implied this approach. >> > c. Decide that the current doc is good enough and make it an >> > informational document. >> From my experience in developing several UPS MIB >> implementations, I'd have to Chris> say that I haven't heard any real feedback from my UPS OEM Chris> customers in regards to making significant additions or Chris> changes to 1628 functionality. Chris> This would seem to suggest that moving to Informational is Chris> the correct choice. That's definitely the choice of least effort. If customers don't care about standards in this area, then why bother? Sounds like enough interest was there for an "industry consortium" to get together to do further work on this, though. The IETF is supposed to be "neutral ground" where this type of work goes on. My suspician is that going to Informational would reflect a lapse in the process, not the real state the document should be in. Chris> -- Chris> Chris Herzog Software Technologies Group, Inc. Chris> mailto:zog@stg.com http://www.stg.com Maria
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