Re: [Uri-review] [Fwd: I-D Action:draft-melnikov-mailserver-uri-to-historic-00.txt]
Alfred Hönes <ah@TR-Sys.de> Wed, 17 November 2010 20:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Uri-review] [Fwd: I-D Action:draft-melnikov-mailserver-uri-to-historic-00.txt]
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My apologies for cross-posting, but this should perhaps reach a broader audience. I suggest to send feedback to the uri-review at ietf.org mailing list, because Alexey sent his I-D announcement there as well. At Wed, 17 Nov 2010 17:26:32 +0000 , Alexey Melnikov wrote: > FYI. I've asked on Apps-discuss about deprecating the mailserver: > URIs and I've heard several voices in favor of doing that. > > I will be asking Peter Saint-Andre to sponsor this document. > > ... > > Filename : draft-melnikov-mailserver-uri-to-historic-00.txt > ... There are two more, apparently natively orphaned URI schemes listed as 'provisional' in the IANA registry, both mentioned in RFC 1630 for the first time, and later again in RFC 1738, but never formally registered and, AFAICS, still lacking any publicly available specification: a) tn3270 b) afs A quick Google search does not reveal any hints on definitions and/or actual use. Some W3C web pages consider these as "reserved" names. Apparently none of the various RFCs on Telnet extensions for TN3270 and the somehow related MIB module specifications mention the 'tn3270' URI scheme. Even stronger, for 'afs', archived mail (from 1993) seems to confirm that 'afs' as a URI scheme was a very poor idea from its beginning (see "afs: considered harmful", <http://wwwwbs.cs.tu-berlin.de/html/urls/0148.html> ). I suggest to consider deprecating these reserved URI scheme names as well, in a single draft together with the 'mailserver' scheme (to save work in the process). Thereby, the registrations would be moved to "Historic", which, according to the definition of that RFC status, does not immediately invalidate existing use cases (if any), but serves to clarify that new implementations should not try to support the subject. The scheme names would remain in the registry, thus keeping the names "reserved", i.e. out of availability for incompatible new use. So there are a few questions, for both cases: 1) Is anybody aware of a specification for the above provisional URI schemes ? 2) If "yes" for 1), are there interoperable implementations? 3) Are these URI schemes in actual use anywhere (even if only intended for interpretation by brainware) ? 4) Do the answers to the above questions support deprecation? Kind regards, Alfred. -- +------------------------+--------------------------------------------+ | TR-Sys Alfred Hoenes | Alfred Hoenes Dipl.-Math., Dipl.-Phys. | | Gerlinger Strasse 12 | Phone: (+49)7156/9635-0, Fax: -18 | | D-71254 Ditzingen | E-Mail: ah@TR-Sys.de | +------------------------+--------------------------------------------+
- [Uri-review] [Fwd: I-D Action:draft-melnikov-mail… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Uri-review] [Fwd: I-D Action:draft-melnikov-… Alfred Hönes
- Re: [Uri-review] [Fwd: I-D Action:draft-melnikov-… Mykyta Yevstifeyev
- Re: [Uri-review] [Fwd: I-D Action:draft-melnikov-… Alfred Hönes
- Re: [Uri-review] [Fwd: I-D Action:draft-melnikov-… Mykyta Yevstifeyev
- [Uri-review] tn3270 Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] tn3270 John C Klensin
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] tn3270 Claudio Allocchio
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] tn3270 Mykyta Yevstifeyev
- Re: [Uri-review] tn3270 Michael Wojcik
- Re: [Uri-review] [Fwd:I-D Action:draft-melnikov-m… Michael Wojcik
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] tn3270 Michael Wojcik
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] tn3270 John C Klensin
- Re: [Uri-review] [apps-discuss] tn3270 t.petch