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Re: [Uri-review] Request for sftp URI scheme

Rick van Rein <rick@openfortress.nl> Wed, 26 September 2018 14:08 UTC

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Hello Ira,

> Two separate efforts to standardize SFTP (the protocol) in IETF failed a
> long time ago.

I was afraid it had been tried, but didn't know how to find out, other
than try this.

> Interoperability between different versions is not
> available.

IOW, standardisation is going to set some people on fire because they
would be rendered the bad guys.  That's indeed a likely recipe for
failure in the IETF, where all voices are heard, I fear.

> Do you intend to start an IETF standards-track effort to standardize
> SFTP?  Or at least to point to a stable, current spec of SFTP protocol?

That is not my current intention.

> Otherwise, I believe that even a provisional registration is of dubious
> value.

Thanks for explaining that.  I shall keep it in the back of my head in
case we ever want to go that way.  I suppose for our own application
I'll have to act in a non-standard manner then.

-Rick

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