[urn] Re: Informal URN Namespace Registration Request for Trivore Corp.

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Fri, 01 May 2026 16:57 UTC

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Subject: [urn] Re: Informal URN Namespace Registration Request for Trivore Corp.
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While prepping the registration for submission to IANA, I noticed that 
it followed the RFC 3406 template, so I've made some editorial fixes to 
bring it up to date. You can view the modified version here:

https://github.com/stpeter/urn-namespaces/blob/main/inprogress/trivore-v1.txt

Kari, please verify that I did not introduce any errors. Once you do so, 
I will submit the registration request to IANA.

Peter

On 5/1/26 8:05 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Hi Kari,
> 
> My apologies for the oversight. I will take care of this today.
> 
> Peter
> 
> On 5/1/26 6:26 AM, Kari Mattsson (Trivore) wrote:
>> Dear all!
>> I understod this application was "sort of" approved back in January. 
>> Maybe it was not? Is there something else I need to do to get us on 
>> the formal namespace list at <https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn- 
>> namespaces/urn-namespaces.xhtml <https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn- 
>> namespaces/urn-namespaces.xhtml>>?
>> I'm asking, because I noticed list was updated about 2 weeks ago. 
>> Thank you!
>> my best, Kari Mattsson
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Dale R. Worley <worley@ariadne.com>
>> *Sent:* 26 January 2026 04:47
>> *To:* Kari Mattsson (Trivore) <kari.mattsson@trivore.fi>
>> *Cc:* lars.svensson@web.de <lars.svensson@web.de>; urn@ietf.org 
>> <urn@ietf.org>; URN-admin <urn-admin@trivore.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [urn] Re: Informal URN Namespace Registration Request 
>> for Trivore Corp.
>> "Kari Mattsson (Trivore)" <kari.mattsson@trivore.fi> writes:
>>> What you pointed out below is exactly our current state with Trivore
>>> ID product.  I am very frank with you, it is currently a mess. I
>>> personally do not like the current state.  We have scopes and claims
>>> with https prefix, and we have plain strings.  Those current url
>>> scopes and claims are already internally deprecated, and will be
>>> changed to urn based on this registration "urn:trviore".  This
>>> registration is part of that.
>>>
>>> We are modifying all those to what is according to new standard,
>>> showing up those urn scopes and claims in the documentation in the
>>> future releases. Trivore ID is a 10 year old product already and being
>>> actively use by millions of people.  Refactoring is currently being
>>> done.
>>>
>>> I hope this clarified the current state.
>>
>> OK, yes, with the understanding that Trivore intends to update its scope
>> and claim names to conform to the urn:trivore syntax, the registration
>> looks good to me.  We have approved a lot of registrations whose syntaxes
>> were considerably broader than the registrants intended to utilize in the
>> foreseeable future.  But as long as the registrant is aware of good URN
>> usage, the IETF does not need to supervise the details of the
>> registrant's usage.
>>
>> Dale
>>
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