Re: [urn] NEW NAMESPACE REGISTRATION: KNX

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Tue, 05 September 2023 09:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [urn] NEW NAMESPACE REGISTRATION: KNX
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On 05.09.2023 10:30, Martin J. Dürst wrote:
> ...
> I'm really concerned that starting to use the term "relative URN" in two
> different ways will cause I lot of confusion. I strongly suggest that
> the KNX spec do not use the term "relative URN". If it turns out that
> there's no good other word for the concept, at least make sure that it's
> always written "KNX relative URN", and that the spec clearly calls out
> the fact that this is different from "relative URN".
> ...

FWIW, what *is* a relative URN?

A relative reference to be resolved against a base URI that happens to
be a URN?

Best regards, Julian