Re: Updated erratum
"Frank Ellermann" <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de> Fri, 20 June 2008 06:14 UTC
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From: Frank Ellermann <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de>
Subject: Re: Updated erratum
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:12:23 +0200
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Posted on the rfc.interest list: >| Errata ID: 1081 (2007-11) was updated by Errata ID: 1353 (2008-03). >| The fix proposed in ID 1353 is clearly better, e.g., ID 1081 allowed >| (in theory) a toplabel 1-2-3, but ID 1353 requires a leading letter. >| >+ If ID 1353 is verified this should trigger follow-up errata for RFCs >| 3696, 4408, and ietf-usefor-usefor. This list might be incomplete. It might be also too long, RFC.ietf-usefor-usefor could be fixed in AUTH48: "<toplabel> is any LDH <label> starting with a letter, and consisting of at least two characters" is a straight forward concept. Frank Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5K6AmMP042740 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits%6 verify=NO); Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:10:48 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id m5K6Amcj042737; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:10:48 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5K6Ajk3042708 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher®S256-SHA bits%6 verify=NO) for <ietf-usefor@imc.org>; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:10:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from usenet-format@gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K9Zpa-0004JA-4u for ietf-usefor@imc.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:10:42 +0000 Received: from hmbg-d9b88e32.pool.mediaways.net ([217.184.142.50]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <ietf-usefor@imc.org>; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:10:42 +0000 Received: from nobody by hmbg-d9b88e32.pool.mediaways.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <ietf-usefor@imc.org>; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:10:42 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ietf-usefor@imc.org From: "Frank Ellermann" <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de> Subject: Re: Updated erratum Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:12:23 +0200 Organization: <http://purl.net/xyzzy> Lines: 15 Message-ID: <g3fhko$vin$1@ger.gmane.org> References: <g34jni$79t$1@ger.gmane.org> <20080616165259.GA5903@isi.edu><g3fdce$lve$1@ger.gmane.org> <g3ff47$pua$1@ger.gmane.org> Reply-To: "Frank Ellermann" <hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: hmbg-d9b88e32.pool.mediaways.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-usefor/mail-archive/> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-usefor-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> List-ID: <ietf-usefor.imc.org> Posted on the rfc.interest list: >| Errata ID: 1081 (2007-11) was updated by Errata ID: 1353 (2008-03). >| The fix proposed in ID 1353 is clearly better, e.g., ID 1081 allowed >| (in theory) a toplabel 1-2-3, but ID 1353 requires a leading letter. >| >+ If ID 1353 is verified this should trigger follow-up errata for RFCs >| 3696, 4408, and ietf-usefor-usefor. This list might be incomplete. It might be also too long, RFC.ietf-usefor-usefor could be fixed in AUTH48: "<toplabel> is any LDH <label> starting with a letter, and consisting of at least two characters" is a straight forward concept. Frank Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m55K6S5o043087 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits%6 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:06:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id m55K6ScP043086; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:06:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from relay01.pair.com (relay01.pair.com [209.68.5.15]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m55K6RiP043071 for <ietf-usefor@imc.org>; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:06:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from mibsoft@mibsoftware.com) Received: (qmail 40679 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2008 20:06:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.11?) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 5 Jun 2008 20:06:26 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 74.212.4.20 Message-ID: <48484742.603@mibsoftware.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:06:26 -0400 From: "Forrest J. Cavalier III" <mibsoft@mibsoftware.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 (Windows/20040616) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf-usefor@imc.org CC: Frank Ellermann <hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Fwd]: 2822 implementation report request References: <4843F18A.3030209@att.com> <g21dv9$8sh$1@ger.gmane.org> <g21hkk$m6b$1@ger.gmane.org> <4847BCC0.3000907@alvestrand.no> <g29arj$cb$1@ger.gmane.org> In-Reply-To: <g29arj$cb$1@ger.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-usefor/mail-archive/> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-usefor-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> List-ID: <ietf-usefor.imc.org> Frank Ellermann wrote: > Harald Alvestrand wrote: > > >>Unlike the case of ABNF, where one settled for >>"implementation = parser", and documented "use", >>I don't think a fellow spec is going to be counted..... > > > The 2234 report counted references, the difference > here could be that RFC 2822 is not only yet another > normative reference in RFC.ietf-usefor-usefor, we > looked at numerous details down to obscure topics > like "semantic content" of a <quoted-string>, the > number of summaries, or the wonders of <obs-phrase>. > > >>but if anyone has a conformant implementation of >>-usefor in his news system, that could also be a >>2822 implementation to report.... > > > That would be of course better, but I'd guess that > only IANA "implements" unnumbered RFCs. If the draft document this group got out the door, (I won't say produced) counts as an "implementation" of a standards track IETF document, then I am very much misled about what "implementation of a standard" means. Based on Ellerman's meaning, I move we translate usefor into Spanish, French, and Italian, declare them interoperable implementations, and promptly notify the IETF of the milestone. It really did feel like Kobayashi Maru simulation all those years. It would be a fitting conclusion to change the exit criteria. - Forrest P.S. I cannot believe I still read and care enough about this attempt and effort to respond. Anyone else still out there? Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m55IM10r022018 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits%6 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:22:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id m55IM1X6022017; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:22:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m55ILvAZ021994 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher®S256-SHA bits%6 verify=NO) for <ietf-usefor@imc.org>; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:21:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from usenet-format@gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K4K5v-0001Du-CU for ietf-usefor@imc.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:21:51 +0000 Received: from 212.82.251.200 ([212.82.251.200]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <ietf-usefor@imc.org>; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:21:51 +0000 Received: from nobody by 212.82.251.200 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <ietf-usefor@imc.org>; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:21:51 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ietf-usefor@imc.org From: "Frank Ellermann" <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de> Subject: Re: [Fwd]: 2822 implementation report request Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 20:23:18 +0200 Organization: <http://purl.net/xyzzy> Lines: 21 Message-ID: <g29arj$cb$1@ger.gmane.org> References: <4843F18A.3030209@att.com> <g21dv9$8sh$1@ger.gmane.org> <g21hkk$m6b$1@ger.gmane.org> <4847BCC0.3000907@alvestrand.no> Reply-To: "Frank Ellermann" <hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.82.251.200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-usefor/mail-archive/> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-usefor-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> List-ID: <ietf-usefor.imc.org> Harald Alvestrand wrote: > Unlike the case of ABNF, where one settled for > "implementation = parser", and documented "use", > I don't think a fellow spec is going to be counted..... The 2234 report counted references, the difference here could be that RFC 2822 is not only yet another normative reference in RFC.ietf-usefor-usefor, we looked at numerous details down to obscure topics like "semantic content" of a <quoted-string>, the number of summaries, or the wonders of <obs-phrase>. > but if anyone has a conformant implementation of > -usefor in his news system, that could also be a > 2822 implementation to report.... That would be of course better, but I'd guess that only IANA "implements" unnumbered RFCs. Frank Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m55AFgHF014647 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits%6 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Jun 2008 03:15:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id m55AFg4A014646; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 03:15:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no (eikenes.alvestrand.no [158.38.152.233]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m55AFena014629 for <ietf-usefor@imc.org>; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 03:15:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from harald@alvestrand.no) Received: from localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1292596BD; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:15:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13662-07; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:15:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.28.60.80] (unknown [195.18.164.170]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25C62596BA; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:15:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4847BCC0.3000907@alvestrand.no> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:15:28 +0200 From: Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Ellermann <hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com> Cc: ietf-usefor@imc.org Subject: Re: [Fwd]: 2822 implementation report request References: <4843F18A.3030209@att.com> <g21dv9$8sh$1@ger.gmane.org> <g21hkk$m6b$1@ger.gmane.org> In-Reply-To: <g21hkk$m6b$1@ger.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at alvestrand.no Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-usefor/mail-archive/> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-usefor-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> List-ID: <ietf-usefor.imc.org> Frank Ellermann wrote: > Hi, I think we could answer this reqest, suggestion: > Unlike the case of ABNF, where one settled for "implementation = parser", and documented "use", I don't think a fellow spec is going to be counted..... but if anyone has a conformant implementation of -usefor in his news system, that could also be a 2822 implementation to report.... > | RFC 2822 / 2822upd Implementation Questionnaire > | =======================> | 0. Contact and Description > | Organization Name: > + IETF USEFOR WG > > | Implementation (Software or Service) Name: > + draft-ietf-usefor-usefor-12 (approved standards track RFC) > > | 1. Have you implemented RFC2822? > + Yes, the RFC 1036 format used to build on RFC 822, the > + revides NetNews formats builds on RFC 2822 (normative > + reference importing major parts of the RFC 2822 syntax) > > | 2. For how long it has been deployed? > + January 2007 > > | 3. What features have NOT been implemented from RFC2822? > + Chapter 4 (obsolete syntax), NO-WS-CTL in <msg-id>, > + [CFWS] in traditional NetNews header fields, more than > + one summary header field (see appendix C of the draft) > > | 4. What features of RFC2822 are problematic for your implementation? > + With two exceptions the obsolete syntax is not supported. > + NetNews header fields require a space after the colon > + between header field name and body, and don't allow any > + folding before the first non-WSP character of the header > + field body. > > | 5. Please add any other comments you wish to share: > + The USEFOR WG welcomes the simplified <msg-id> syntax as > + proposed in 2822upd. > > Frank > > > Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m52JSdJk017217 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits%6 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:28:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id m52JSdCS017215; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:28:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m52JSZA4017171 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher®S256-SHA bits%6 verify=NO) for <ietf-usefor@imc.org>; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:28:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from usenet-format@gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K3Fho-0003yB-Ny for ietf-usefor@imc.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:28:32 +0000 Received: from hmbg-d9b88e29.pool.mediaways.net ([217.184.142.41]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <ietf-usefor@imc.org>; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:28:32 +0000 Received: from nobody by hmbg-d9b88e29.pool.mediaways.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <ietf-usefor@imc.org>; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:28:32 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ietf-usefor@imc.org From: "Frank Ellermann" <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de> Subject: Re: [Fwd]: 2822 implementation report request Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:30:03 +0200 Organization: <http://purl.net/xyzzy> Lines: 39 Message-ID: <g21hkk$m6b$1@ger.gmane.org> References: <4843F18A.3030209@att.com> <g21dv9$8sh$1@ger.gmane.org> Reply-To: "Frank Ellermann" <hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: hmbg-d9b88e29.pool.mediaways.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-usefor/mail-archive/> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-usefor-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> List-ID: <ietf-usefor.imc.org> Hi, I think we could answer this reqest, suggestion: | RFC 2822 / 2822upd Implementation Questionnaire | =============================================== | 0. Contact and Description | Organization Name: + IETF USEFOR WG | Implementation (Software or Service) Name: + draft-ietf-usefor-usefor-12 (approved standards track RFC) | 1. Have you implemented RFC2822? + Yes, the RFC 1036 format used to build on RFC 822, the + revides NetNews formats builds on RFC 2822 (normative + reference importing major parts of the RFC 2822 syntax) | 2. For how long it has been deployed? + January 2007 | 3. What features have NOT been implemented from RFC2822? + Chapter 4 (obsolete syntax), NO-WS-CTL in <msg-id>, + [CFWS] in traditional NetNews header fields, more than + one summary header field (see appendix C of the draft) | 4. What features of RFC2822 are problematic for your implementation? + With two exceptions the obsolete syntax is not supported. + NetNews header fields require a space after the colon + between header field name and body, and don't allow any + folding before the first non-WSP character of the header + field body. | 5. Please add any other comments you wish to share: + The USEFOR WG welcomes the simplified <msg-id> syntax as + proposed in 2822upd. Frank Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m52IQ3Wa096426 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits%6 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:26:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id m52IQ3Ca096424; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:26:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m52IPxr7096380 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher®S256-SHA bits%6 verify=NO) for <ietf-usefor@imc.org>; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:26:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from usenet-format@gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K3EjD-0000Fj-BW for ietf-usefor@imc.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:25:55 +0000 Received: from hmbg-d9b88e29.pool.mediaways.net ([217.184.142.41]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <ietf-usefor@imc.org>; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:25:55 +0000 Received: from nobody by hmbg-d9b88e29.pool.mediaways.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <ietf-usefor@imc.org>; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:25:55 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ietf-usefor@imc.org From: "Frank Ellermann" <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de> Subject: [Fwd]: 2822 implementation report request Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 20:27:28 +0200 Organization: <http://purl.net/xyzzy> Lines: 51 Message-ID: <g21dv9$8sh$1@ger.gmane.org> References: <4843F18A.3030209@att.com> Reply-To: "Frank Ellermann" <hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: hmbg-d9b88e29.pool.mediaways.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-usefor/mail-archive/> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-usefor-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> List-ID: <ietf-usefor.imc.org> [[[copy of an article posted on the IETF rfc822 list by Tony Hansen]]] The IETF will shortly be considering elevating the revised mail format specification RFC 2822, to the second-level standards status of DRAFT. A requirement for this is to produce information about implementations of the protocol specification. It is therefore essential that we assemble a credible collection of information about actual development and interoperability testing -- and deployment is a form of testing -- for RFC 2822. Because mail is a rich and widely-deployed protocol, the goal of this query is to ask for enough information to be useful, but not to place undue burden on responders by asking them to do a massive checklist. It is assumed that most implementations of RFC 2822 have implemented all of its required (MUST) features and probably a fair number of its optional (SHOULD or MAY) features. This survey does NOT cover any specifications outside of the RFC2822 document itself. No enhancements, options, or the like. Please take some time to complete the following questionnaire and send me a private note with your responses. I will assemble them into a public report. Please respond by June 10 2008. RFC 2822 / 2822upd Implementation Questionnaire =============================================== 0. Contact and Description Organization Name: Implementation (Software or Service) Name: 1. Have you implemented RFC2822? 2. For how long it has been deployed? 3. What features have NOT been implemented from RFC2822? 4. What features of RFC2822 are problematic for your implementation? 5. Please add any other comments you wish to share: Thank you. Tony Hansen tony@att.com PS. This note borrows heavily from the 2821 implementation request email by Dave Crocker.
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