Re: [usefor] [apps-discuss] Changes to netnews header registrations
Graham Klyne <gk@ninebynine.org> Tue, 17 May 2016 08:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [usefor] [apps-discuss] Changes to netnews header registrations
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(Trimming cc's) On 16/05/2016 16:57, Julien ÉLIE wrote: > Hi Graham, > >> TL;DR: I don't propose to recommend the additional changes you suggest >> as I'm not seeing that they really contribute to the purpose of the >> registry (cf. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3864#section-2.2.2). > > OK, Content-* header fields used by netnews are not supposed to be registered. > Yet, is it the same for MIME-Version, that is not mentioned in neither Section 1 > nor Section 2.2.2 of RFC3864? I believe so: "MIME-Version" is registered as a "MIME" header field in the registry. > > > >> 2. With reference to the X-headers you mention, I see little point in >> adding new, non-standard headers to the registry simply to indicate they >> are now obsolete. (There could be a case for doing this if they are in >> widespread use, but I think that should be a separate discussion, and a >> new RFC with its own IANA considerations section. I suspect it's not >> worth the effort!) > > It depends on when we can say a header field is "wide-spread". > I've just had a look in two newsgroups: > > * last 1043 messages (roughly October 2014-May 2016) in news.software.nntp: > 391 (37%) contain X-Trace > 216 (21%) contain X-Complaints-To > > * last 1437 messages (roughly August 2014-May 2016) in soc.culture.french: > 612 (43%) contain X-Trace > 97 (7%) contain X-Complaints-To > > Of course wider stats should be done because the generation of these headers > depend on the news servers the users connect to. > > > X-Trace seems in wide-spread use, though. > I agree that writing a new RFC to just obsolete it is probably not worth the > effort. However, maybe X-Trace (and maybe other headers) could be added in IANA > considerations section of an update of RFC 5536 if we ever move it to Draft > Standard? > Sure. That would be subject to normal IETF review. If it passed that, then (as registry reviewer) I would have no problem recommending its acceptance. #g --
- Re: [usefor] Changes to netnews header registrati… Julien ÉLIE
- Re: [usefor] Changes to netnews header registrati… Graham Klyne
- Re: [usefor] [Ietf-message-headers] Changes to ne… Graham Klyne
- Re: [usefor] Changes to netnews header registrati… Julien ÉLIE
- Re: [usefor] [apps-discuss] Changes to netnews he… Graham Klyne
- Re: [usefor] [apps-discuss] Changes to netnews he… Julien ÉLIE