Re: [Uta] Eric Rescorla's Discuss on draft-ietf-uta-smtp-require-tls-07: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Sat, 02 March 2019 15:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Uta] Eric Rescorla's Discuss on draft-ietf-uta-smtp-require-tls-07: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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> > > My idea of an ideal end-state for hop-by-hop security for e-mail is
> > > that:
> >
> > See, this is why we often say that IETF folks should not generally try
> > to design UI things:
>
> What on Earth made you choose to be so condescending here?  Do I not get
> to express my personal preferences?

I'm sorry.  I didn't mean to condescend, and please accept my apology
for having worded it badly.

> How about a response to the substantive parts of my post?

The only part I was addressing was the suggestion of prominent UI
indications, which I do not think is a good thing for the reasons I've
said: Almost all users will not understand at all what the indications
mean, and many will understand incorrectly to the point of being
misinformed by them.

Barry