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Re: [v6ops] Clarification on draft-linkova-v6ops-ipmaclimi

Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Wed, 09 November 2022 07:23 UTC

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Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 08:23:44 +0100
From: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
To: Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Clarification on draft-linkova-v6ops-ipmaclimi
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Hi,

On Wed, Nov 09, 2022 at 12:00:12PM +1100, Jen Linkova wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 6:06 AM Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 09, 2022 at 05:52:19AM +1100, Jen Linkova wrote:
> > > 2. I do love /64 per host idea, but until two hours ago I was under
> > > the impression that there is no way we can get that deployed any time
> > > soon.
> >
> > There is no way to get that deployed any time soon, except in specific
> > environments where people are interested, willing and able to sacrifice
> > a /56 or more for "just the wifi".
> 
> So I asked you to wait for 48 hrs so I can phrase my proposal
> carefully, and you are already saying "it's not possible" before even
> hearing me out? ;)

Anything that creates pressure left of the /64 boundary will be met
with massive resistence.

There is no way (besides NAT66) to do what you suggest without requiring
"more than one /64 for a wifi sigment".

But looking forward to what you're going to come up with :-)

Gert Doering
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have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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