Re: [v6ops] Reused deprecated prefix (0200::/7)

Nick Buraglio <buraglio@es.net> Tue, 01 June 2021 21:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Reused deprecated prefix (0200::/7)
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Did we ever see a response to this? My take is that if the prefix is not
being used for its original intended purpose, then it is functionally
squatting on deprecated address space. A read of the project notes looks as
if it is still pre-production code similar in nature to ZeroTier or the
Slack nebula, the former of which is able to leverage both rfc4193 and
6plane as its addressing schema. While no one can expect to control what is
used on private networks and projects, I don't see this particular issue as
a show stopper for this particular draft, assuming this is in use as a
private addressing schema and not as rfc4548. Based on the site, that
appears to be the case:

*Yggdrasil uses the 0200::/7 range, which is a range deprecated by the
IETF. It has been deprecated since 2004, pending changes to an RFC which
simply never materialised 14 years later. It was decided to use this range
instead of fc00::/7 (which is more typically allocated to private networks)
in order to prevent conflicts with existing ULA ranges.*

nb



On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 3:51 PM Brian E Carpenter <
brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alexander,
>
> Do you mean that the prefix is being used as specified in RFC1888 or in
> some other way?
>
> On a technical detail, the prefix is marked as "reserved" by IANA. The
> logic for that is that if anybody is using 0200::/7 on the public Internet
> for its original experimental purpose, it cannot also be used for any other
> purpose. What is "deprecated" is the method in RFC1888.
>
> Regards
>    Brian Carpenter
>
> On 23-May-21 21:47, Александр
> Иванов wrote:
> > Hello, v6ops maillist members,
> >
> > I want to talk about the 0200::/7 prefix, which is officially deprecated
> (RFC4048), but actually used from 2017 to now.
> >
> > There's a project called Yggdrasil Network - a self-arranging encrypted
> IPv6 network (https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/) <
> https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/)> which utilizes this deprecated
> prefix ...and its network already has members that use it for business
> purposes.
> >
> > How do you think about allocating that prefix as a software-routed
> global unicast address? A future RFC can be merged with
> draft-horley-v6ops-expand-doc-00.
> >
> > I highly appreciate any feedback and help for new to the IETF.
> >
> > Regards,
> > ~ Alexander Ivanov, Russia
> >
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