Re: [v6ops] ULA Usage Guide draft requesting for review
Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Mon, 04 March 2013 19:00 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] ULA Usage Guide draft requesting for review
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Hi, On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 03:12:11PM +0000, Ted Lemon wrote: > On Mar 4, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote: > > So what is it that you're missing? "Sane implementations" is not really > > something the IETF can provide. > > Support for multiple provisioning domains is high on my list. Support for DNS zone maintenance as well. But that's all in the "all software sucks" domain, not that much IETF standards can do about it. Or am I misunderstanding you? The general beef in the IETF IPv6 working groups seems to be that one camp wants "everything that's needed to configure a host" in RA, and the other camp thinks DHCP is good enough for everything and thinks having to run RA as well is evil, and should not be done. Or such. I think people from both camps should be drowned somewhere, for refusing to acknowledge that networks in the real world out of their ivory towers *differ* in nature, and some would benefit from "just RA" while others might want "just DHCPv6". Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
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