Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-v6ops-xie-network-happyeyeballs-00.txt
Davey Song <songlinjian@gmail.com> Thu, 27 September 2018 03:28 UTC
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From: Davey Song <songlinjian@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 11:28:45 +0800
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-v6ops-xie-network-happyeyeballs-00.txt
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Hi Tommy, Thanks for your suggestions. On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 23:38, Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com> wrote: > +1 to the point that the proposal for NHE is essentially a mechanism for > the ISP and/or content provider to work around a broken deployment that > they should be in a position to fix themselves, or between one another as > Tony describes. > Fair enough. I think it is worth of doing it. The part that remains interesting is suggestions for networks to collect > more reports on the relative health of IPv4 and IPv6 connections, to help > fix bugs and broken deployments. Focusing on these improvements rather than > filtering DNS answers seems like it would be a more fruitful direction. > >From the feadback of this list, now I'm think of dividing NHE draft into two pieces: One is network-side IPv6 measurment and failure reporting which is in aim to provide information to workaround broken deployment in a position to fix by ISP themselves. ISP can decide by themself to take advantege of measurement information. It can be standard track or informational. Another one is Selectively delaying AAAA record other than filtering DNS records. It served an experimental/informational case of ISP taking IPv6 mearement infromation as a feed to quickly and temporarily fix the problem if operator think it is neccesary. How does this sound ? Davey
- [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-v… Davey Song
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Davey Song
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Davey Song
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… 神明達哉
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-v6… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Davey Song
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Davey Song
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Davey Song
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-v6… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-v6… Davey Song
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … George Michaelson
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … Joe Abley
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … George Michaelson
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … Joe Abley
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-v6… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … Davey Song
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-v6… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-v6… Davey Song
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-v6… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … Chongfeng Xie
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … Tony Finch
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … Tony Finch
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … Tommy Pauly
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … Paul Vixie
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … Fred Baker
- [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanisms in… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … Davey Song
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … Davey Song
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Simon Hobson
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Lee Howard
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] [DNSOP] New Version Notification for … STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Ackermann, Michael
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Yannis Nikolopoulos
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Yannis Nikolopoulos
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Yannis Nikolopoulos
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Lencse Gábor
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Yannis Nikolopoulos
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Yannis Nikolopoulos
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Yannis Nikolopoulos
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Lencse Gábor
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Yannis Nikolopoulos
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Lee Howard
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Lee Howard
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Ca By
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Lee Howard
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Yannis Nikolopoulos
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Lencse Gábor
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] Trajectory for "transition" mechanism… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ