[v6ops] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-optimization-05.txt

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Hi Brian,

I don’t think those 2 document are relevant in this case. 

I was trying to find a document that describes the carrier NAT44 function, something like the equivalent to the NAT64 (RFC6146), but didn’t found it. I think it was initially described as AFTR in the DS-Lite case, but not appropriate because there is doing the tunnel end-point as well.

I’m sure someone will recall the correct document sooner or later ….

Regards,
Jordi

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> El 28 may 2026, a las 22:43, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> escribió:
> 
> Hi Jordi,
> 
> I see that you mention "CGN (NAT444)" a couple of times. How about adding references to RFC6888 (BCP127) and possibly RFC7021?
> 
> Regards/Ngā mihi
>   Brian Carpenter
> 
> On 29-May-26 05:36, jordi.palet@consulintel.es wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Taking advantage of draft-ietf-v6ops-nat64-wkp-1918, we have re-addressed this document.
>> The idea is that, the same as CDNs/cache, use non-global routable addresses for bypassing the CGN boxes, we can use the same non-global-routable addresses to avoid the CDN traffic to use the NAT64.
>> It will be good if, specially, folks with CDN/cache services, can provide their inputs.
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>> @jordipalet
>>> El 28 may 2026, a las 19:23, Internet-Drafts@ietf.org escribió:
>>> 
>>> Internet-Draft draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-optimization-05.txt is now available.
>>> It is a work item of the IPv6 Operations (V6OPS) WG of the IETF.
>>> 
>>>   Title:   464XLAT/MAT-T Optimization
>>>   Authors: Jordi Palet Martinez
>>>            Alejandro D'Egidio
>>>   Name:    draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-optimization-05.txt
>>>   Pages:   25
>>>   Dates:   2026-05-28
>>> 
>>> Abstract:
>>> 
>>>   IP/ICMP Translation Algorithm (SIIT) can be used to provide access
>>>   for IPv4-only hosts or applications to IPv4-only or dual-stack
>>>   destinations over IPv6-only infrastructure.  In that case, the
>>>   traffic flows are translated twice: first from IPv4 to IPv6
>>>   (stateless NAT46 at the ingress point to the IPv6-only
>>>   infrastructure) and then from IPv6 back to IPv4 (stateful NAT64, at
>>>   the egress point).  When the destination is IPv6-enabled, the second
>>>   translation might be avoided.  This document describes a possible
>>>   optimization to 464XLAT and MAP-T to avoid translating IPv6 flows
>>>   back to IPv4 if the destination is reachable over IPv6.  The proposed
>>>   solution would significantly reduce the NAT64 utilization in the
>>>   operator's network, increasing the performance.
>>> 
>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-optimization/
>>> 
>>> There is also an HTMLized version available at:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-optimization-05
>>> 
>>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-optimization-05
>>> 
>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
>>> rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
>>> 
>>> 
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