Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Packets with Extension Headers - MTU

Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> Mon, 27 July 2020 10:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Packets with Extension Headers - MTU
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Eduard

MTUs don't change the principal that EHs can be operationally 
troublesome, although there may be a minor impact in terms of scope. 
It's probably a good idea to touch on the subject in the draft, but I 
don't think it needs much more than a mention.

Nick


Vasilenko Eduard wrote on 27/07/2020 10:39:
> Hi Fernando,
> It is more important to have the problem mentioned on the list, then the quality of the section itself.
> It is definitely a problem if one would like to activate any EH - potential admin should be warned.
> What could be inside:
> - small discussion that fragmentation in the middle of IPv6 path is not possible
> - some IPCMPv6 messages should not be filtered
> - MTU is better to change on networking links
> In reality, I do not believe that it is difficult to compile this section, because so many materials on the IETF for this subject.
> IMHO: it is very important to have this warning on the list.
> 
> If you like, I could try to write this small section. Just this week is a little busy for me.
> Eduard
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fernando Gont [mailto:fgont@si6networks.com]
> Sent: 27 июля 2020 г. 12:18
> To: Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com>; IPv6 Operations <v6ops@ietf.org>
> Cc: draft-gont-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-packet-drops@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: Operational Implications of IPv6 Packets with Extension Headers - MTU
> 
> Hello, Edward,
> 
> On 27/7/20 05:46, Vasilenko Eduard wrote:
>> Hi Fernando,
>> It is possible to search "MTU" in your draft. But I am surprised anyway how small attention (to this problem) is in your draft.
>> IMHO: MTU deserves to be section 5.4
> 
> Could you please clarify what's the discussion you expect to see about the MTU?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Cheers,
> --
> Fernando Gont
> SI6 Networks
> e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com
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