Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic-08.txt
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic-08.txt
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On 18 Nov 2014, at 21:30, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: >>> Despite being a paid-up member of the burn-6to4-with-fire camp, I really >>> don't think that the IETF should recommend that operators actively block >>> their end-users from being able to do something, even if we all think it's >>> a rotten poor idea. The protocol is dying quite nicely by itself without >>> operator intervention. >> >> The goal is to not break active and successful users of 6to4. However, >> we don't want to perpetuate zombiefied (half-broken) 6to4 relays either. >> If it is Ok for relay server operators to turn-off relays, at some >> point it needs to be Ok for network operators to not carry the route as >> well. > > We turned off our 6to4 relay at the end of 2012. We certainly have > no plans to turn it on again. > > However - I see no need to deliberately remove the 192.88.99.1 route. > It will disappear when the last 6to4 relay is turned off. I wonder what the first publicly announced IPv4 6to4 relay was. Perhaps SWITCH (via Simon Leinen) or FUNET (Pekka Savola)? I remember the days of SWITCH’s relay being a world 6to4 magnet. Would be poetic to let them be the last to switch off too, if they’re still running :) Tim
- [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-hist… internet-drafts
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… sthaug
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Mark Andrews
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Doug Barton
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Tore Anderson
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… sthaug
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Tim Chown
- [v6ops] Who is stilll running 6to4 relays (Was: I… Jeroen Massar
- Re: [v6ops] Who is stilll running 6to4 relays (Wa… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Who is stilll running 6to4 relays (Wa… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Who is stilll running 6to4 relays (Wa… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Who is stilll running 6to4 relays (Wa… Jeroen Massar
- Re: [v6ops] Who is stilll running 6to4 relays (Wa… Metzler, Dan J
- Re: [v6ops] Who is stilll running 6to4 relays (Wa… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Who is stilll running 6to4 relays (Wa… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] Who is stilll running 6to4 relays (Wa… Mark ZZZ Smith
- Re: [v6ops] Who is stilll running 6to4 relays (Wa… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… gall
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Jeroen Massar
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… James Woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-… Alexandru Petrescu