Re: [v6ops] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-ipv4aas-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-ipv4aas-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Hi Alissa, Thanks for the review. See my inputs below, in-line. Regards, Jordi -----Mensaje original----- De: v6ops <v6ops-bounces@ietf.org> en nombre de Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> Fecha: jueves, 10 de enero de 2019, 15:43 Para: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org> CC: <draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-ipv4aas@ietf.org>, <v6ops-chairs@ietf.org>, <v6ops@ietf.org> Asunto: [v6ops] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-ipv4aas-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-ipv4aas-13: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-ipv4aas/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) I think the standard RFC 8174 boilerplate is needed here. I think it was a mistake to use the 2119 keywords differently in RFC 7084, and that mistake need not be repeated. This document uses the normative keywords in the same ways as many other informational documents. RFC 2119 is not focused on interoperability, but rather on the requirements that the specification using the keywords is laying out. (2) I don't think it is appropriate for this document to defined a new normative keyword, "DEFAULT," in Section 1.1. The right place to do that would be an update to RFC 2119 or RFC 8174. This is especially problematic given that the one place in this document where it is used, it is in a paragraph that also uses other normative keywords. Since it's only used once, I would suggest just explaining what it means in that location (3.2.2) rather than defining it as a keyword. I've no problem in proceeding as you indicated in (1) and (2) above. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- == Section 1 == OLD This ensures that remote IPv4-only services continue to be accessible, from an IPv6-only Internet Service Provider access network (typically referred as WAN - Wide Area Network, even if in some cases it may be metropolitan, regional, etc.), from both, IPv4-only and IPv6-only applications or devices in the LAN side. NEW This ensures that remote IPv4-only services continue to be accessible from an IPv6-only Internet Service Provider (ISP) access network from both IPv4-only and IPv6-only applications and devices on the LAN side. These ISP access networks are typically referred to as Wide Area Networks (WANs), even if in some cases they may be metropolitan or regional. (Then you could deleted the parenthetical "(Internet Service Providers)" in the sentence below Figure 1.) Thanks, this looks much better. It seems odd that Figure 1 appears in Section 1 but isn't referenced in the text until Section 12. I think you need a sentence in this section to describe what is depicted in the figure or why it is there, or you need to remove the figure. Right, I think this is something that is related to the xml editor, and didn't realized that. The reference in section 12 is for Figure 2, not Figure 1 ... So it was incorrectly renumbered. s/devices or applications/devices and applications/ == Section 3.2 == s/an automated IPv6 transition mechanism provisioning/automated IPv6 transition mechanism provisioning/ s/per interface/per interface/ Would suggest dropping "(which may depend on each transition mechanism)" since it makes the sentence confusing and doesn't add anything. == Section 3.2.1 == OLD If DNS64 [RFC6147] is not used, or not trusted, as the DNS configuration at the CE (or hosts behind the CE) may be modified by the customer, then the service provider may opt to configure the NAT64 prefix either by means of [RFC7225] or [RFC8115], which also can be used if the service provider uses DNS64 [RFC6147]. NEW It may be the case that the service provider does not use or does not trust DNS64 [RFC6147] because the DNS configuration at the CE (or hosts behind the CE) may be modified by the customer. In that case, the service provider may opt to configure the NAT64 prefix either by means of [RFC7225] or [RFC8115]. These can also be used if the service provider uses DNS64. == Section 7 == I would suggest starting this section with "At the time of this writing, ..." == Section 12 == The text that refers to Figure 1 I think is meant to refer to Figure 2. Or if not, text is needed to describe Figure 2. Right, all the precented changes look fine to me. Thanks! _______________________________________________ v6ops mailing list v6ops@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. 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