Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD"
Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com> Thu, 02 February 2023 15:41 UTC
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To: Ole Troan <otroan=40employees.org@dmarc.ietf.org>, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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Thread-Topic: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD"
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD"
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It looks like we are talking about address appointment. ND is for this task by definition. DHCP too. ND is capable of announcements and withdrawal. DHCP is only for an announcement. Big difference. Ed/ From: v6ops [mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ole Troan Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 4:25 PM To: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Cc: snac@ietf.org; V6 Ops List <v6ops@ietf.org>; Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr>; Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Subject: Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Ted, Exactly! I don't know how you do stable prefix assignment to subnets with NDP/ICMP. I'm sure you could, but how much different than PD would it be at that point? The original prefix delegation proposal did exactly that: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-haberman-ipngwg-auto-prefix-02 And the observation was then “this looks just like DHCP, why not use that?” O. On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 12:22 AM Klaus Frank <klaus.frank@posteo.de<mailto:klaus.frank@posteo.de>> wrote: I agree, with that. And tbh, I personally think introducing DHCPv6-PD at all was a conceptional mistake. It's duties should have been carried out by ICMPv6 and NDP... Also there is no real alternative for environments with dynamically assigned prefixes or where clients are roaming between networks and need a delegated prefix locally for e.g. Docker or VMs... Except for "use DHCPv6-PD to get the prefix, run a DIY script to update configuration files and restart radvd and/or bird..." On 22.01.2023 20:56, Gert Doering wrote: > DHCPv6-PD seems to be a half-finished routing protocol already, and trying to > wiggle around admitting it. > > Gert Doering > -- NetMaster > > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list > v6ops@ietf.org<mailto:v6ops@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops -- Snac mailing list Snac@ietf.org<mailto:Snac@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/snac
- [v6ops] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Michael Richardson
- Re: [v6ops] [ipv6-wg] "router cascade with DHCPv6… Timothy Winters
- Re: [v6ops] [ipv6-wg] "router cascade with DHCPv6… Michael Richardson
- Re: [v6ops] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Martin Huněk
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] [ipv6-wg] "router cascade with DHCPv6… Erik Kline
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] [ipv6-wg] "router cascade with… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Michael Richardson
- [v6ops] referencing RFC7695 from draft-winters-v6… Michael Richardson
- Re: [v6ops] referencing RFC7695 from draft-winter… Timothy Winters
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Timothy Winters
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Ole Trøan
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Michael Richardson
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Ole Trøan
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Martin Huněk
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Martin Huněk
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Ian Farrer
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Ole Trøan
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Michael Richardson
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Ole Trøan
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Michael Richardson
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Michael Richardson
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Ole Trøan
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Bob Hinden
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Ole Trøan
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Klaus Frank
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Klaus Frank
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Klaus Frank
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Klaus Frank
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Klaus Frank
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Klaus Frank
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Ole Trøan
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Klaus Frank
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] [Snac] "router cascade with DHCPv6-PD" Juliusz Chroboczek