Re: [v6ops] Time to dump dual-stack networks and get on the IPv6 train - with LW4o6

Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 02 July 2018 09:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Time to dump dual-stack networks and get on the IPv6 train - with LW4o6
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On Jun 30, 2018, at 12:16 AM, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Time to dump dual-stack networks and get on the IPv6 train - with LW4o6 https://news360.com/article/460267064
> 
> IPv6 in the press. Thinking about this as we approach IETF 102, where IPv4 overlaid on or translated to IPv6 is on the agenda.

For the record, the thing I found interesting here wasn't hearing that someone was deploying it. It was where I found it.

I have an application on my telephone (I imagine many of us do) that gives me a selection of news articles to read every day. Articles about Israel come from the Jerusalem Post or Haaretz. The editor seems to really like BBC and Reuters, which is fine by me, as I find American news sources very beltway-centric (if Mr Trump isn't mentioned, the editor considers the article to be "not worth reading"). There are occasionally US news sources as well, and AL-Jezerah. I read about asteroids that come closer to the Earth than the moon - regularly - and a variety of other topics. Some have to do with Christianity, which is something important to me, and some have to do with technology, often BitCoin or other buzzword-level topics.

I rarely read about the Internet, and if I do, it's not anything I would consider "news". Maybe the fact that the Internet Society chose a new CEO (congratulations, Andrew!). But not much.

An IPv6-only network is "news" coming from that perspective. So I found this very interesting in that editorial context. The editor, I gather, thought that this was less esoteric than a discussion from a scientific journal filled with words that are unpronounceable by mere mortals, which I get pretty regularly.

Let me put this into context. In the 1980's and early 1990's, I didn't usually tell people what I did for a living. If I said the then-current vernacular for "software engineer", I would get asked applications layer questions like "so why can't my bank balance my checkbook?". "Gee, I dunno, I don't do that." I would tell people that I taught computers to talk amongst themselves, and people would think I was really strange.

In 1994, I was walking on State Street (what Santa Barbara calls "Main Street") and watched a bus pass by. End to end, the side of the bus displayed a lipstick ad, on which the only writing was a URL. Obviously, someone was test marketing: "if we show this ad, what happens nest?". Well, no woman equipped with a right mind buys lipstick from either an ad on a bus or a URL; they go to a store and look at the colors. But it set me thinking: maybe my technology is now mainstream enough that I can mention the Internet and people will have a clue. Sometimes.

So for a number of years, I would respond to
	"what do you do for a living"
with
	"you know what the Internet is, right?"
Depending on the response, I might actually answer, or might say
	"well, I teach computers to converse amongst themselves".
More often the latter than the former...

In 2000, I sat down in a prayer meeting next to a college coed.
	"What do you do for a living?"
	"Well, you know what the Internet is, right?"
	"That's so condescending!"

Now (2018) I tell people what I do for a living. But that was easily 20 years into actually doing it.

Thinking about where this goes next.