Re: [v6ops] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-v6ops-nat64-deployment-07: (with COMMENT)

[Roman Danyliw <[e-mail]>]

Hi!

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> Subject: Re: Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-v6ops-nat64-
> deployment-07: (with COMMENT)
> 
> Hi Med,
> 
> Thanks a lot! that's a very good "middle point" reference. It is only about US,
> I will try to see if there is a similar one that shows also other regions.
> 
> Regards,
> Jordi
> @jordipalet
> 
> 
> El 11/7/19 9:05, "[e-mail]"
> <[e-mail]> escribió:
> 
>     Hi Jordi, all,
> 
>     One comment below.
> 
>     Cheers,
>     Med
> 
>     > -----Message d'origine-----
>     > De : v6ops [mailto:[e-mail]] De la part de Jordi Palet
>     > Martínez
>     > Envoyé : jeudi 11 juillet 2019 08:41
>     > À : Roman Danyliw; The IESG
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>     > Objet : Re: [v6ops] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-v6ops-
>     > nat64-deployment-07: (with COMMENT)
>     >
>     > Hi Roman,
>     >
>     > Thanks a lot for your inputs.
>     >
>     > See below, in-line.
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     > Jordi
>     > @jordipalet
>     >
>     >
>     > El 11/7/19 2:44, "Roman Danyliw via Datatracker" <[e-mail]>
>     > escribió:
>     >
>     >     Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for
>     >     draft-ietf-v6ops-nat64-deployment-07: No Objection
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>     >
>     >     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>     >     COMMENT:
>     >     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>     >
>     >     (1) Section 5.  Is there an informative reference that can be made
>     > about the
>     >     successful deployment on cellular networks?
>     >
>     > Do you mean citing specific operators? I can name several in almost
> every
>     > continent, but I'm not convinced this is correct in an IETF document ...
>     >

I'm flexible.  The text asserts this is used widely.  I was wondering if any informative reference could point to that.

>     [Med] No need to be exhaustive here, I suggest to add one single pointer:
> https://www.worldipv6launch.org/major-mobile-us-networks-pass-50-ipv6-
> threshold/. Having an informative reference is helpful for this kind of
> statements (because otherwise, this may be considered as speculative).
>
> 
>     >     (2) Section 7.  Consider adding an explicit statement such as the
>     > following
>     >     after the intro sentence that “no new security considerations are
>     > added”:
>     >
>     >     As noted in the relevant sections above, the NAT64 and DNS64
>     > technologies can
>     >     impact the efficacy or functionality of key security (i.e., DNSSEC and
>     > VPNs)
>     >     and privacy preserving (i.e., DNS-over-TLS and DNS-over-HTTP)
>     > technologies.
>     >
>     > -> I will need to reword it. This is right in the reference to DNSSEC.
>     > However VPNs and DNS privacy, the point is on the other way around
> (those
>     > technologies can avoid the DNS64 performing correctly, and thus, break
>     > NAT64).

Right.  I botched what-breaks-what so please do reword it.  

>     >     (3) Editorial Nits
>     >
>     >     ** Section 1.  Editorial. s/today unrealistic/unrealistic today/
>     >
>     >     ** Section 5.  Typo.  s/learn he/learn the/
>     >
>     >     ** Section 5.  Editorial.  “Hundreds of millions of users” mentioned
>     > twice.
>     >
>     >     OLD:
>     >     NAT64/464XLAT has demonstrated to be a valid choice in several
>     > scenarios
>     >     (IPv6-IPv4 and IPv4-IPv6-IPv4), with hundreds of millions of users,
>     > being the
>     >     predominant mechanism in the majority of the cellular networks
> (which
>     > account
>     >     for hundreds of millions of users).
>     >
>     >     NEW:
>     >     NAT64/464XLAT has demonstrated to be a valid choice in several
>     > scenarios
>     >     (IPv6-IPv4 and IPv4-IPv6-IPv4) in cellular networks which account for
>     > hundreds
>     >     of millions of users.
>     >
>     > Noted and corrected all those nits in my internal version. I will wait a
>     > couple of days before publishing it, in case there are any further inputs.

Thanks for fixing these.

Thanks,
Roman

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