Re: [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-analysis
Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Tue, 05 November 2013 19:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-analysis
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In message <CAKr6gn2P5R2W8Paihdc78tCpPnUE6Zo0HbrdtqFSKS4fZsHb8w@mail.gmail.com> , George Michaelson writes: > > I tend to SHOULD. you can do what you like, but the consequence of not > doing a local delegation is information leakage. There is no compelling MUST And if you have random address selection you along with random prefix selection you have a 2^114 birthday paradox space. I'll assume the subnet are not random. You have a 2^40 birthday paradox space of a getting sub optimal address selection order. i.e. you will try the ULA before GUA. > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Liubing (Leo) <leo.liubing@huawei.com>wrote: > > > Hi, Jen > > > > I got your comments. I'll consider to revise accordingly. Many thanks > > > > Regards, > > Bing > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: v6ops-bounces@ietf.org [v6ops-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Jen > > Linkova [furry13@gmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 09:50 > > To: v6ops@ietf.org > > Subject: [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-analysis > > > > Section 4.2. says that > > " > > > > So when using ULAs in a network, the administrators should clearly > > set the scope of the ULAs and configure ACLs on relevant border > > routers to block them out of the scope. And if internal DNS are > > enabled, the administrators might also need to use internal-only DNS > > names for ULAs. > > " > > I believe it should that that the administrator MUST configure egress > > ACLs on borders routers and MUST ensure that their DNS servers do not > > include ULAs in any responses to external clients. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > SY, Jen Linkova aka Furry > > _______________________________________________ > > v6ops mailing list > > v6ops@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops > > _______________________________________________ > > v6ops mailing list > > v6ops@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops > > > > --047d7b33da0a02fb4e04ea730e22 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <div dir=3D"ltr">I tend to SHOULD. you can do what you like, but the conseq= > uence of not doing a local delegation is information leakage. There is no c= > ompelling MUST</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_= > quote"> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Liubing (Leo) <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a hre= > f=3D"mailto:leo.liubing@huawei.com" target=3D"_blank">leo.liubing@huawei.co= > m</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi= > n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> > Hi, Jen<br> > <br> > I got your comments. I'll consider to revise accordingly. Many thanks<b= > r> > <br> > Regards,<br> > Bing<br> > <br> > ________________________________________<br> > From: <a href=3D"mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org">v6ops-bounces@ietf.org</a> = > [<a href=3D"mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org">v6ops-bounces@ietf.org</a>] on b= > ehalf of Jen Linkova [<a href=3D"mailto:furry13@gmail.com">furry13@gmail.co= > m</a>]<br> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 09:50<br> > To: <a href=3D"mailto:v6ops@ietf.org">v6ops@ietf.org</a><br> > Subject: [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-analysis<br> > <div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br> > Section 4.2. says that<br> > "<br> > <br> > So when using ULAs in a network, the administrators should clearly<br> > =A0 =A0set the scope of the ULAs and configure ACLs on relevant border<br> > =A0 =A0routers to block them out of the scope. And if internal DNS are<br> > =A0 =A0enabled, the administrators might also need to use internal-only DNS= > <br> > =A0 =A0names for ULAs.<br> > "<br> > I believe it should that that the administrator MUST configure egress<br> > ACLs on borders routers and MUST ensure that their DNS servers do not<br> > include ULAs in any responses to external clients.<br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > --<br> > SY, Jen Linkova aka Furry<br> > _______________________________________________<br> > v6ops mailing list<br> > <a href=3D"mailto:v6ops@ietf.org">v6ops@ietf.org</a><br> > <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops" target=3D"_blank">h= > ttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops</a><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > v6ops mailing list<br> > <a href=3D"mailto:v6ops@ietf.org">v6ops@ietf.org</a><br> > <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops" target=3D"_blank">h= > ttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops</a><br> > </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> > > --047d7b33da0a02fb4e04ea730e22-- > > --===============5663455589702191862== > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list > v6ops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops > > --===============5663455589702191862==-- -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
- [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-anal… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-… Arturo Servin
- Re: [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-… Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-… Arturo Servin
- Re: [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-… Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-… George Michaelson
- Re: [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-… Mark Andrews
- Re: [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-… joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-… Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] comment on draft-liu-v6ops-ula-usage-… Liubing (Leo)